Thread: Review of 6.3 Story Content

Originally Posted by TofuPenguin

• Really wish the writer who did HW would come back.

Likewise. By comparison, those that came after Maehiro seem to have either benefited from luck and coincidence (Shadowbringers) and consequently failed upwards resulting in the spectacular disaster that was Endwalker's base MSQ, where we fought the 500 year old little girl of despair and discovered the true meaning of life. All while the deaths around us were collateral and the protagonist's closest friends were brought back after dying. Again. For Thancred to then proclaim they got away with not even a scratch to show for it all. What kind of apocalyptic story is this? Either make the cast likeable enough to justify keeping them around (this did not happen) or please for the love of God get rid of them.

At any rate, Maehiro's gone off to take charge of FFXVI and while his job in it is probably done and over with, if you were to ask me to take charge of FFXIV's story and lore after Endwalker wrecked it all I'd probably decline outright. Such is his right as well. Confirming no life exists on other planets anymore, destroying entire antagonist factions offscreen unceremoniously, and making the few gods that remain total jokes doesn't lend itself to the sorts of stories I imagine him wanting to tell. FFXIV's setting could be taken seriously back in the ARR-Heavensward days. This is no longer the case.

FFXVI on the other hand appears to be...everything I wish this game would have. More orders of knights. Consequences for overusing or abusing magic - while Y'shtola's aether vision eating her life force away was retconned here. At least in Valisthea she would have been turned to stone by now, and preferably shattered soon afterwards. More Ysayle types. The sort of classic high fantasy elements that are either completely absent from this game or present in such minute or uninspired ways as to be entirely forgettable.

The now publicly available ratings for the game also went into specific detail as to the sort of brutal events we can expect to see, and I'm all for that as well. No more kiddie gloves, finally we're going to see some full on medieval grit. What a pity that the same cannot be said for FFXIV. Instead of animations that would serve the game's fantasy setting, we get steamed buns. Utterly ridiculous.

Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

The latest information we have is that the patch stories are being written relay-race style between different writers. Seems the baton got passed back to whoever did 6.1 with how much of a downgrade this one was. Hiroi hasn't stepped up to the MSQ yet until 7.0, but since he's working on Pandaemonium I'm going to use that as the benchmark as to whether or not 7.0 will be worth playing for me or not.

In an expansion overwhelmingly tilted towards childish and irrelevant nonsense, Pandaemonium stands apart as the sole storyline that I have any interest in because it actually manages to take itself seriously. I really like how he wrote Lahabrea last patch, especially because it really seemed to urk the Ascian haters that he wasn't his old cackling evil villain self. Nuance. You know, what we thought Endwalker would have before the story bent over backwards around Venat and the forced philosophical rambling about the meaning of life via Hermes and Meteion.

Childish irrelevant nonsense. Childish in what way? Irrelevant how? Many things wouldn't matter or happen if no for EW. Same of every expac. Pande "takes itself seriously" and the rest of the game doesn't? Does a cracked joke mean things aren't serious? Is the presence of food somehow how serious? Is the fact Vrtras sister being missing for so long and stuck in the 13th not serious? Is the struggle of the Garlean people to this day not serious? There are parts of the game that are serious and parts that aren't. To say none of it is is a lie.

Didn't you JUST say a few pages back Laha was turned into a joke? Now you're saying you like how he is now (get this) because he "triggers" Ascian haters....no real profound reason just "he passes off people I don't like so that means it's good". Nuance...yes a word you seem to not care about. The story doesn't bend over backwards for her just like it doesn't bend over backwards for Emet or Hermes. The game offers a perspective on all these people and even LETS your character choose how to see it. I said they were all justified in their own way. That's OK. That's good writing.
For you to just call it "forced philosophical ramblings" tells me you lack empathy as a human being. We were dealing with Nihilism in its purest form. That concept must have flown over your head

Still find it odd your idea of characters revolves around women you don't like that you wish died, and women you do like that did end up dead. Why I say you have some sort of death fetish. Man says food is out of place in a game that has turtles with booster jets as feet...

Originally Posted by CStrife912

I have come to terms that Aveyond is posting with alt accounts and quoting themselves at this point that's how ludicrous this has become XD I get some of the points made but people here have made great comments back yet haven't been quoted by the OP it seems they don't want to acknowledge people with genuine thought behind their retorts.

Redmage disappeared...Aveyond comes back...

Hmmm...

Originally Posted by CStrife912

I have come to terms that Aveyond is posting with alt accounts and quoting themselves at this point that's how ludicrous this has become XD I get some of the points made but people here have made great comments back yet haven't been quoted by the OP it seems they don't want to acknowledge people with genuine thought behind their retorts.

That's because I don't believe his goal here is to discuss anything. He just wants to put his opinion out, call it fact and ignore anything after that doesn't suit his agenda. He knows not all of us are trying to clown him. But it's easier to write others off than it is to confront their points and bring forth facts to dispute them. I've said before he is right about things such as lore changes. (I've also said that's something that is bound to happen with longstanding lore, but I get why that can erk people). I've also called him o being wrong about certain events n things that take place. Again nothing but facts there but neither matters really.

I'm not licensed or anything but if I had to guess he doesn't have a real vent in life so he comes to the forums n vents here. I don't say that as an insult by any means. Just how it seems to me. I mean it when I say I feel bad for him sometimes cause I wouldn't want to be bound by a game I hate n somehow feel betrayed by.

Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

That's because I don't believe his goal here is to discuss anything. He just wants to put his opinion out, call it fact and ignore anything after that doesn't suit his agenda.

Nailed it perfectly.

Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

That's because I don't believe his goal here is to discuss anything. He just wants to put his opinion out, call it fact and ignore anything after that doesn't suit his agenda. He knows not all of us are trying to clown him. But it's easier to write others off than it is to confront their points and bring forth facts to dispute them. I've said before he is right about things such as lore changes. (I've also said that's something that is bound to happen with longstanding lore, but I get why that can erk people). I've also called him o being wrong about certain events n things that take place. Again nothing but facts there but neither matters really.

Yeah. When he has a good point to make I do find myself agreeing with him. Other times...I'm at a loss for words as a read his posts.

spectacular disaster that was Endwalker's base MSQ,

Im starting to agree on the conclusion that yes: you are a troll.

At any rate, Maehiro's gone off to take charge of FFXVI and while his job in it is probably done and over with, if you were to ask me to take charge of FFXIV's story and lore after Endwalker wrecked it all I'd probably decline outright.

"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out .."We are SO happy to hear it....."