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    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    I dont intend to sound like a smart ass or anything , but, I now understand why you have some hate controll issues. If i may be soo bold and put up some sequences in wich you may want to try
    I never said I have hate issues. In fact, I DONT' have hate issues. I'm at the forefront of those saying PLD doesn't have a problem holding hate, because it doesn't. BUT, let's look at your suggestion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    Sentinel > Aegis Boon > Flash > Voke > Phalanx > Spirit's Within >War Drum (keep in mind if you already have enough tp for war drum and or phalanx i would use those first but otherwise this set up buys you a few seconds to build a bit of tp while keeping all your hate moves inside that 10 second buff timer of Sentinel.)
    Putting Flash and Provoke where you have them severely limits the already short window you have to get off Phalanx and makes it near impossible to get War Drum off in the order in which you have it. Also, if you're using abilities, you aren't meleeing, which means you aren't building TP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    Rampart dose build hate but a few things to know, only realy works if you use it and multiple people get it, the more people who get the buff the greater the hate generation and it dosent get better with sent.
    The chances that you'll get multiple people in your Rampart varies from battle to battle. You should not be NOT using it because you're the only one that will benefit. It's still a damage reduction move and you shouldn't be uber conservative with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    Also AOE cures (when ever you can, helps to have that on a macro) also gens hate realy well, but the heal must actually regen HP back to the target/s HP bar
    For many given situations a PLD would be tanking, you shouldn't need AoE cures, and individually curing party members with Holy Succor would be far more beneficial. I don't know what you're fighting, but if your PLD is curing for hate with AoE cures, then something is going wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    as far as the other weapon skills , the only other one that is designed to gen hate and has been improved for doing soo is
    fast blade > flat blade. true this one dosent do much damage at all but it has fast cool down times and very low tp requirements soo that helps with being able to spam it ALOT ,
    The combo effect from Fast/Flat Blade is indeed enmity, but the Fast/Savage/Goring combo does good damage and the bleeding effect from Goring is of tremendous assistance. Goring Blade has a cooldown that is such you would use the Fast/Savage/Goring combo then move to Fast/Flat until F/S/G is available again.


    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    also anytime you can spam sheild bash ( after having done your combos) it also genrates hate.
    DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT just spam Shield Bash. Shield Bash should be held until the mob is readying a TP move or Spell, or if you must stun the enemy to survive.

    Spamming shield bash is actually a horrible idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    your cartoon (altho funny as hell) is not what PLD "should feel like" . If done correctly PLD should feel like a Pianist playing a song
    I don't use macros, so it's more akin to the image in my sig.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    in light of that, mp regen , altho very minimal , dose exist within the PLD realm. cool, kinda changes things, but not by much, looks like those High block shields may have just become more valuable then.
    Stacking Divine Veil with Outmaneuver is an excellent MP restore, especially the harder the enemy hits you.



    To be completely honest, you don't seem to understand how to play the job to it's potential. Your suggestions are good on an elementary level, but they aren't going to make you competitive. You're stuck in basic play of the job and you don't seem to grasp all the mechanics of your abilities.

    Spend some more time with the job, then re-assess your thoughts.
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    Last edited by Alerith; 03-30-2012 at 06:25 AM.