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    Raven2014's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonteCristo View Post
    General consensus seems to be we dont want it locked behind fc meanwhile if implemented correctly it could be a invigorating change to spark more life into the deadness that is absolutely felt by many FCs across all data centers.
    Seeing how there are many active FCs around, this sound like an issue with those "dead" FC. At the end of the day, if you want to run and manage a social community, it gonna have to be your own effort. An FC, or a guild (or whatever an MMO call these) have always been a place for people who want to do "existing" activities together, not so they can run some "exclusive" content. Even the MMO call itself "Guild War" didn't do anything like that.


    When did our community get so afraid of innovation? Its always no dont touch anything the game is perfect as is for many things that are suggested.
    And when did this line become the next favorite gaslighting lately? Oh I want to change something you disagree? You must be afraid of change!

    - Bring up the issue of healer and ask them to be changed: literally 90% of the forum gonna support you.
    - Bring up things like 2min buff windows and you'll see a split opinion.
    - Bring up PvP, and most will agree with you but still gonna disagree 'cause most of the "fixes" is actually about reversing it to a worse state.


    But there will be also topic like this one, or the one about Second Wind earlier this month then yeah, most people telling you they don't see a problem because ... well, they don't just see it as a problem, not because they don't want change. And you labeling it innovation doesn't really make it so. And like I said, it seems the counter punch is 9/10 time is always something similar to that above quote.
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 12-30-2022 at 04:37 PM.

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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Seeing how there are many active FCs around, this sound like an issue with those "dead" FC. At the end of the day, if you want to run and manage a social community, it gonna have to be your own effort. An FC, or a guild (or whatever an MMO call these) have always been a place for people who want to do "existing" activities together, not so they can run some "exclusive" content. Even the MMO call itself "Guild War" didn't do anything like that.




    And when did this line become the next favorite gaslighting lately? Oh I want to change something you disagree? You must be afraid of change!

    - Bring up the issue of healer and ask them to be changed: literally 90% of the forum gonna support you.
    - Bring up things like 2min buff windows and you'll see a split opinion.
    - Bring up PvP, and most will agree with you but still gonna disagree 'cause most of the "fixes" is actually about reversing it to a worse state.


    But there will be also topic like this one, or the one about Second Wind earlier this month then yeah, most people telling you they don't see a problem because ... well, they don't just see it as a problem, not because they don't want change. And you labeling it innovation doesn't really make it so. And like I said, it seems the counter punch is 9/10 time is always something similar to that above quote.
    I was going to come back and say something like this.

    It's such a meme these days that anyone who disagrees "finds things to be perfect". No. I have my gripes, but I pick my battles. Some things are more likely to change than others.

    Many ideas I see are just bad or not fully fleshed out. Some are rooted in selfish desires and there's no regard for others who might be affected negatively. When things don't go their way, it's time to attack the opposition, which just confirms the fact that their own argument has no chance... and people wonder how feedback doesn't reach the team.
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