Content geared towards FCs

[Vidu]

Oh, I don't know... Maybe because if FCs actually mattered then recruitment would also matter, and it would end up being important to keep your FC clean of it?

There would still be drama, you can never be rid of that, but people in FCs would make a lot more effort to avoid it.

There's no real reason to be in a FC right now outside of buffs and the workshop(which only ranks get access to anyways). This means it's a mostly social group, and that people hop between them until they find the right one or they decide that they don't need one.

If there was exclusive content for a FC suddenly most people would likely need one, but FCs would also need willing members for that content. This means there could be competitive recruitment, and competitive recruitment would lead to FCs attempting to reduce drama and treat their members better. Otherwise their FC could end up with a bad image, and therefore struggle to recruit members for said content.

Its nice that you have such a positive outlook here, but honestly I'd suspect the opposite would happen.

FC-exclusive content would be gated by something else on top of being gated by FCs - may that be the amount of people who can participate at once, your own schedudle which may or may not allow you to play during the time your FC does the content, the amount of loot (think about how the rare drops from airships/subs are distributed within a FC...) or if its personal loot the question of everyone contributed equally to the task at hand... honestly, I can think of so many things that are basically drama waiting to happen here.

In addition to that I also see potential from turning FCs from social groups into "reward factories" where you dont join a FC or stay in it because you like the company, but because its the most efficient one for you to have access to the content/rewards. I'm being a bit hyperbolic here, but imagine people having to leave FCs with friends that they enjoy playing with because the FC is to small for the content or because everyones schedules dont line up well enough to tackle it. People staying in FCs where they dont like anyone, but get to do the content. People being kicked out of the FC because they dont contribut enough to said content. People going FC hoping to do the content more often. People threating to leave the FC if they dont get XYZ...

I actually prefer FCs being "just" social groups over being forced into a group that ends up being more or less social - and in the end potentially only focussed on getting the most out of the FC. And I'd prefer to be in a FC because people like having me, as a person, around - not because I'm useful to them because of [content].

[Lieri]

They dont even have to make a content specifically for FC to make people in FC do contents together. Increased rewards will be enough but I would love it if theres a new content geared towards FC

But yeah FC in this game has always been more like a social group anyway. You join an FC and most of the time they have a voice chat group somewhere while the FC chat itself is very quiet. Its annoying really.

Outside of housing, there is no difference between FC and CWLS, and maybe FC tag in your name. Thats all theres to it.

[MonteCristo]

They dont even have to make a content specifically for FC to make people in FC do contents together. Increased rewards will be enough but I would love it if theres a new content geared towards FC

But yeah FC in this game has always been more like a social group anyway. You join an FC and most of the time they have a voice chat group somewhere while the FC chat itself is very quiet. Its annoying really.

Outside of housing, there is no difference between FC and CWLS, and maybe FC tag in your name. Thats all theres to it.

I agree i just want to do unique activities with my group. If we can get tons of side quests, hildebrand,gold saucer, or other content that ultimately ends up being for fun/glamour i really don't understand resistance to content that encourages a little camaraderie. Not an unreasonable suggestion I'm genuinely confused at the resistance.

[Saraide]

I agree i just want to do unique activities with my group. If we can get tons of side quests, hildebrand,gold saucer, or other content that ultimately ends up being for fun/glamour i really don't understand resistance to content that encourages a little camaraderie. Not an unreasonable suggestion I'm genuinely confused at the resistance.

You are facing resistance specifically for the FC lock you are proposing. You can just have normal content and do it with your FC if your FC is interested. Plenty of FCs already do community stuff.

[VerdeLuck]

I agree i just want to do unique activities with my group. If we can get tons of side quests, hildebrand,gold saucer, or other content that ultimately ends up being for fun/glamour i really don't understand resistance to content that encourages a little camaraderie. Not an unreasonable suggestion I'm genuinely confused at the resistance.

You can already do things with your FC without taking content and gatekeeping it from people without an active FC. Just do it. Schedule raid nights, schedule MINE runs, social events, etc. Nothing is stopping it from happenning. You just want there to be content that only you can do and other people can't. Nobody wants that. All of the other content you listed is possible both as a group or solo. None of it is gatekept behind a requirement of having an active FC of at least a certain size that actively runs the content to get your reward.

[caffe_macchiato]

You just want there to be content that only you can do and other people can't.

What do you mean, "other people can't"? FCs are a core part of game design, just like every other piece of content in the game. There's nothing stopping you from joining an FC.

Schedule raid nights, schedule MINE runs, social events, etc.

Except many people don't want to do those. There's a reason why "the drought" has become a prevailing topic on this board and across the game. People don't want to re-run old content or make custom parties out of boredom. They'd rather play other games instead. And while it's a shame that people need a carrot on a stick in order to play FFXIV, it would greatly benefit this game's population if we had FC content. It's like how we have roulettes for leveling dungeons so that sprouts can have a chance to play them. We need something to get communities active again, and MINE runs aren't going to cut it.

[Saraide]

What do you mean, "other people can't"? FCs are a core part of game design, just like every other piece of content in the game. There's nothing stopping you from joining an FC.


Except many people don't want to do those. There's a reason why "the drought" has become a prevailing topic on this board and across the game. People don't want to re-run old content or make custom parties out of boredom. They'd rather play other games instead. And while it's a shame that people need a carrot on a stick in order to play FFXIV, it would greatly benefit this game's population if we had FC content. It's like how we have roulettes for leveling dungeons so that sprouts can have a chance to play them. We need something to get communities active again, and MINE runs aren't going to cut it.

Then run new content with your FC as it releases?

[Jeeqbit]

I agree i just want to do unique activities with my group. If we can get tons of side quests, hildebrand,gold saucer, or other content that ultimately ends up being for fun/glamour i really don't understand resistance to content that encourages a little camaraderie.

Then do the content that encourages camaraderie that other FCs do.

Treasure Map parties, mount farm events, RP events, house decorating, if it's big enough do an alliance raid together. Plenty of FCs run events for all the different content in the game and don't have this problem. It's when there is nobody who sets up events that the FC doesn't do anything.

[MonteCristo]

Then do the content that encourages camaraderie that other FCs do.

Treasure Map parties, mount farm events, RP events, house decorating, if it's big enough do an alliance raid together. Plenty of FCs run events for all the different content in the game and don't have this problem. It's when there is nobody who sets up events that the FC doesn't do anything.

Fluff content doesn't move all players...if i was asking about fluff, adding a hairstyle, or something glamour related I'm 90% sure the responses would all be supportive. General consensus seems to be we dont want it locked behind fc meanwhile if implemented correctly it could be a invigorating change to spark more life into the deadness that is absolutely felt by many FCs across all data centers. When did our community get so afraid of innovation? Its always no dont touch anything the game is perfect as is for many things that are suggested.

[Deveryn]

Fluff content doesn't move all players...if i was asking about fluff, adding a hairstyle, or something glamour related I'm 90% sure the responses would all be supportive. General consensus seems to be we dont want it locked behind fc meanwhile if implemented correctly it could be a invigorating change to spark more life into the deadness that is absolutely felt by many FCs across all data centers. When did our community get so afraid of innovation? Its always no dont touch anything the game is perfect as is for many things that are suggested.

It's not fear of innovation. It's the glaring lack of possibilities for SE to find something to fill this alleged gap in content. Nothing is perfect, but nothing is broken either. If you want your FC to have more to do, take some initiative (and see who sticks around).