Content geared towards FCs

[ameliaw]

They should make some sort of content or benefit for playing with your FC, because ATM there's no point on not having a solo FC. By having your own you can get an easy house, storage space, a FC room that you don't need to worry about losing if you get sick of your group or if it ends, and of course good and easy money

[Jeeqbit]

I agree i just want to do unique activities with my group. If we can get tons of side quests, hildebrand,gold saucer, or other content that ultimately ends up being for fun/glamour i really don't understand resistance to content that encourages a little camaraderie.

Then do the content that encourages camaraderie that other FCs do.

Treasure Map parties, mount farm events, RP events, house decorating, if it's big enough do an alliance raid together. Plenty of FCs run events for all the different content in the game and don't have this problem. It's when there is nobody who sets up events that the FC doesn't do anything.

[caffe_macchiato]

You just want there to be content that only you can do and other people can't.

What do you mean, "other people can't"? FCs are a core part of game design, just like every other piece of content in the game. There's nothing stopping you from joining an FC.

Schedule raid nights, schedule MINE runs, social events, etc.

Except many people don't want to do those. There's a reason why "the drought" has become a prevailing topic on this board and across the game. People don't want to re-run old content or make custom parties out of boredom. They'd rather play other games instead. And while it's a shame that people need a carrot on a stick in order to play FFXIV, it would greatly benefit this game's population if we had FC content. It's like how we have roulettes for leveling dungeons so that sprouts can have a chance to play them. We need something to get communities active again, and MINE runs aren't going to cut it.

[Atelier-Bagur]

But what would be the benefit of having these activities only be available to FCs? I really fail to see why that would be a better thing over content thats just available to any group of people, no matter if they're in the same FC or not. We've got lots of content that is available to FCs - you mention a few yourself, but pretty much any content in game can be done with a group of FC-members, if you want to do content together. Maybe its me but it seems really weird to me to need an extra-reward to do content with people you enjoy having around - at least for me running a raid with some FC-mates feels more rewarding than doing it by myself because I know I've got competent people with me, as well as having someone to talk to during the run.

More content would surely be nice - but I dont see how "more content, but have to do with your FC" is better than just more content that you can do with anyone you want.

all I'm advocating is to have some bit more FC related content

[Saraide]

What do you mean, "other people can't"? FCs are a core part of game design, just like every other piece of content in the game. There's nothing stopping you from joining an FC.


Except many people don't want to do those. There's a reason why "the drought" has become a prevailing topic on this board and across the game. People don't want to re-run old content or make custom parties out of boredom. They'd rather play other games instead. And while it's a shame that people need a carrot on a stick in order to play FFXIV, it would greatly benefit this game's population if we had FC content. It's like how we have roulettes for leveling dungeons so that sprouts can have a chance to play them. We need something to get communities active again, and MINE runs aren't going to cut it.

Then run new content with your FC as it releases?

[Raven2014]

The only contents that should be FC exclusive is QoL contents, which is what it mostly is. There could be some more QoL provided, but I'm against any exclusive tangible content that locked behind it. An FC - by definition - a player created community, and how active or how dead it is are the responsibility of the people who in it. And I don't believe you need exclusive "things" to get it going.


Take raiding for example, I run savage on several chars, both in static and PF.

- My PF char clear much earlier than my static char because I can put in as much time as I want in PF.
- My PF char gears up on alt set much faster 'cause free roles.

Going purely in term of benefit and gain, I actually has very little reason to be in a static. Yet I'm usually in one, why? 'Cause the same activities are still more fun doing with people you actually know and socialize with than with complete stranger.


Just like it's a bad idea to lock content like gardening behind a house or airship/submarine behind FC house only, having content exclusive to FC will just be equally bad. In fact, if the content is substantial enough that people who don't want to join an FC feel they're being compelled to join one or miss out ... that never gonna be a good idea.

[caffe_macchiato]

Then run new content with your FC as it releases?

New content only comes out every four months (at best). And eventually, new content becomes old content. I'm not asking them to double their budgets and give us more raids, story content, etc. But we need something repeatable and social so that communities can survive the hard times we inevitably have every patch cycle. Something like an eight-man deep dungeon, V&C, treasure, or fishing venture with FC rewards that can't simply be "finished" and thrown away like most patch content.

MMOs should not be seasonal. They should not be in a drought state for eight months out of the year. We cannot sustain communities like that.

[Jojoya]

The OP has me confused by saying FCs remind him more of a social group than a guild.

That's all FCs and guilds ever were - social groups. Like-minded players with similar interests and compatible personalities come together to do things. There's no requirement that specific content must be done.

If FCs aren't doing the content already in the game together, it probably won't be different with any other content SE choses to add.

What do you mean, "other people can't"? FCs are a core part of game design, just like every other piece of content in the game. There's nothing stopping you from joining an FC.

Sure there is. It's not a solo decision on your part. You don't get to just walk up to people and say "I've decided I'm in your FC now".

Someone already in the FC with the correct permissions needs to invite you to join or accept the application you submit. The same person (usually along with several others) also have the ability to kick you from the FC on a whim if they desire. That leaves you at the mercy of someone's willingness to invite you and the FC's willingness to keep you as a member.

FCs are not a core part of game design. No one is guaranteed a spot in a FC simply because they created a character. They're an optional part of game design. You can play the entire game without joining a FC and miss out on nothing of importance. Even most of the FC actions (minor QoL) are available through Squadron Manuals.

all I'm advocating is to have some bit more FC related content

FCs are perfectly capable of creating their own if they feel there is a lack.

[MonteCristo]

Then do the content that encourages camaraderie that other FCs do.

Treasure Map parties, mount farm events, RP events, house decorating, if it's big enough do an alliance raid together. Plenty of FCs run events for all the different content in the game and don't have this problem. It's when there is nobody who sets up events that the FC doesn't do anything.

Fluff content doesn't move all players...if i was asking about fluff, adding a hairstyle, or something glamour related I'm 90% sure the responses would all be supportive. General consensus seems to be we dont want it locked behind fc meanwhile if implemented correctly it could be a invigorating change to spark more life into the deadness that is absolutely felt by many FCs across all data centers. When did our community get so afraid of innovation? Its always no dont touch anything the game is perfect as is for many things that are suggested.

[Deveryn]

Fluff content doesn't move all players...if i was asking about fluff, adding a hairstyle, or something glamour related I'm 90% sure the responses would all be supportive. General consensus seems to be we dont want it locked behind fc meanwhile if implemented correctly it could be a invigorating change to spark more life into the deadness that is absolutely felt by many FCs across all data centers. When did our community get so afraid of innovation? Its always no dont touch anything the game is perfect as is for many things that are suggested.

It's not fear of innovation. It's the glaring lack of possibilities for SE to find something to fill this alleged gap in content. Nothing is perfect, but nothing is broken either. If you want your FC to have more to do, take some initiative (and see who sticks around).