Automatic Home Demolition is Resuming!!

[Amarande]

SE's logic seems to be to encourage taking breaks but still continuing to pay them money.

Something like that, I tend to call it the "Gym Membership" business model

Honestly, it would work out a lot better if the player culture was as friendly to break-taking as Yoshida is, but FFXIV as it is has such a tendency to make content lulls even more palpably extreme than they actually are: most endgame content has such a strong "rush it or forget it" community mindset that almost regardless of your player level, you're forced kicking and screaming along with the curve if you don't want to wait for everything to be completely trivialized down to "maybe even easier than DF" level.

So if you're hardcore, naturally you rush the content as soon as it comes out and then have nothing much material to do, but if you have a house you gotta pay sub and log in regularly to keep it even so.

If you're a middling endgame player, you still have to rush the content as soon as it comes out, otherwise Duty Complete says hi and you'll live a life of frustration and fuming unless you back burner it for the rest of the patch. And so, you, too, have nothing much material to do, but if you have a house, you gotta pay sub and log in regularly to keep it.

If you're a super casual player, then you barely have any endgame content to do once you finish MSQ. In fact, getting and decorating a house is most of it! But despite the sporadic pace of other things to do, you gotta pay sub and log in regularly to keep it.

Everyone loses it seems, except for maybe the RP crowd ...

[DeNada]

The 45 day auto demolition for houses is really egregious and runs contrary to YoshiP comments that one should simply unsub during a content lull.

Given that each major content patch is 3-4 months apart, an auto demolition timer of at least 90 to 120 days is more tolerable if their advice to players is to unsub during content lull to avoid losing their houses.

[Bobby66]

The 45 day auto demolition for houses is really egregious and runs contrary to YoshiP comments that one should simply unsub during a content lull.

Given that each major content patch is 3-4 months apart, an auto demolition timer of at least 90 to 120 days is more tolerable if their advice to players is to unsub during content lull to avoid losing their houses.

If you are not playing why exactly do you need a house? It is not contrary to his comments, if you do not want to play during a lull unsub, and if one is not playing they do not need a house.

[DeNada]

If you are not playing why exactly do you need a house? It is not contrary to his comments, if you do not want to play during a lull unsub, and if one is not playing they do not need a house.

On the contrary, no one really need a house except for perhaps active FCs who need a place for their FC members to congregate and socialize.

If you put it that way, why does any individual need a house, you might as well just remove individual housing and make it FC only with measures such that shell FCs are taken out as well.

Is it fair to someone who saved up 50 million gil to buy a house and lose it all simply because he is following YoshiP advice to unsub during a content lull?

[Deveryn]

The 45 day auto demolition for houses is really egregious and runs contrary to YoshiP comments that one should simply unsub during a content lull.

Given that each major content patch is 3-4 months apart, an auto demolition timer of at least 90 to 120 days is more tolerable if their advice to players is to unsub during content lull to avoid losing their houses.

That happened because players didn't like the fact that people would disappear from the game and not use their plots. I doubt they'll ever listen to players who want thing extended like this. Given how limited housing continues to be, it should be a commitment. If you're the type to take breaks, but want a place to call your own, get an apartment.

[Reinha]

The 45 day auto demolition for houses is really egregious and runs contrary to YoshiP comments that one should simply unsub during a content lull.

Given that each major content patch is 3-4 months apart, an auto demolition timer of at least 90 to 120 days is more tolerable if their advice to players is to unsub during content lull to avoid losing their houses.

I may be wrong but I don't recall Yoshi-P ever recommending to unsub for the majority of a patch cycle. Subbing for 1 month 3 times a year to only do the MSQ is not "taking a break", it's someone being inactive most of the time and skipping X.X5 patches. Content lulls don't start immediately after a patch.

To give an example, videos like this talking about a content lull: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWF4Xk4sbh4, posted Nov 23 which is 4 weeks after patch 6.25. If you start a 45 day break on Nov 23 it ends on 6 Jan, 2023. Basically a few days before the next patch giving you some time to prepare. Someone taking longer breaks than that is not doing the content that was recently released which means they are inactive.

[Bobby66]

On the contrary, no one really need a house except for perhaps active FCs who need a place for their FC members to congregate and socialize.

If you put it that way, why does any individual need a house, you might as well just remove individual housing and make it FC only with measures such that shell FCs are taken out as well.

Is it fair to someone who saved up 50 million gil to buy a house and lose it all simply because he is following YoshiP advice to unsub during a content lull?

So you are saying someone should keep a house even if they are not actively playing? 45 days is enough time to log in once and run into your house, if you are unable to keep up with that commitment so be it.

Personally I would be all for removing personal housing and making everything FC only.

[UkcsAlias]

Given that each major content patch is 3-4 months apart, an auto demolition timer of at least 90 to 120 days is more tolerable if their advice to players is to unsub during content lull to avoid losing their houses.

If someone only cares about the MSQ and new content, its unlikely they care much about housing.

[MistyMew]

I love housing and hate msq and gearing
What content people like is HIGHLY individual.

The timer is far toooooo short.
if someone remains subbed that's all it should take to keep ones house.
If they do unsub the timer should be maybe 6 months at the minimum before any timer starts ticking.
Having to log in EVEN WHILE PAYING is insanity and very shady of SE.

Apartments are small, ugly and useless IMO,so apartments are not an option for many people.
The timer is cringy and very questionable for PAYING customers.

I want everyone to get homes I have always HEAVILY preached to se to improve their broken design from the first day!!!
BUT to steal away something I paid for ingame if i dont log in in x amount of days? wtf?
everything in the game is their property but the act of this is VERY questionable and downright tacky as f*ck.

*People agree to insanity because they are desperate which blinds common sense, I understand how it happens.*

But the fact that those in charge designed this broken idea....and obviously think its ok? makes me question Yoshi and every other developers IQ.
They are way out of touch and STILL have not even come close to solving the issues for the last 8 years.
/slowgolfcalp Yoshi.

[dspguy]

If you are not playing why exactly do you need a house? It is not contrary to his comments, if you do not want to play during a lull unsub, and if one is not playing they do not need a house.

It isn't like when you take a break for longer than 45 days you come back and have lost access to your mounts, titles, gear, etc. Why should a house be any different?