Let's talk about Alliance roulette and ilvl cheese for a sec.

[Toutatis]

Simply doing iLVL requirements and cheesing is not the only issue. Some people just don't want to even unlock the later raids, and there isn't a need to force them to.

Totally agree. I doubt iLvl cheese is that much of a problem. There are many reasons to get CT other than first time mission and iLvl:

- people may queue for it directly for various reasons (WT book, relics or just “because”);
- there’s probably less people directly queuing for other raids than CT, thus less demand (Roulette is there to help complete duties first and if nobody queues for a specific raid, chances for it to pop are small);
- levelling other jobs and being between level 50-60;
- regardless of level, one may not have reached the point in the story where they can unlock the next raids;
- even with all level 90 characters with everything unlocked, there is the “luck” factor (Free to play are also limited to the first two raid series, so that’s a 50/50 chance to get CT based on luck alone);
- above everything else, other raids are entirely optional and many people don’t unlock them because they don’t want to or don’t know about them (the quest givers can be out of the way). I know several people like the previous poster’s wife who simply don’t like ARs much. There are a few raids I don’t like at all (Dun Scaith, Tower at Paradigm) and I am not unlocking them on my alts.

Also the game is huge and someone starting a new character today has a lot to do before reaching endgame with msq alone and unlocking optional raids may be pretty low in the list of priorities. The same goes when you buy a boost: there are tons of blue quest icons all over the maps and many things are more useful and pressing than optional ARs. Unlocking optional raids itself takes a significant amount of time.

That being said, I seem to get a high ratio of Nier and Ivalice raids these days and even got Aglaia a few times.

[Midareyukki]

That being said, I seem to get a high ratio of Nier and Ivalice raids these days and even got Aglaia a few times.

Gimme. Because every Alliance Raid I've had all week has been CT xD

[Toutatis]

Gimme. Because every Alliance Raid I've had all week has been CT xD

You'd have to change worlds XD

So far in the past 10 days or so I got 2 x Ridorana, 1 x Orbonne, 2x Nier 2, 1 x Nier 3 (that one hurts my eyes), 1x Void Ark and 1 x WoD. I also queued for Nier 2 at like 1 am Eastern to unlock it on an alt and to my surprise waited less than 5 mins although the timer initially said over 30 mins. Maybe I was the missing player lol. It normally doesn't pop that much at that hour so I admit I just got lucky on that one as it was way past prime time. I rarely wait much if it is prime time but at 1am it starts getting a bit more difficult.

[FireMage]

Whether something is a problem is a personal oppinion. Your oppinion is not mine, hence i said 'so called' as it covers both sides. And i stated there was an exploit that needed fixing, as exploits need fixing

I made a factual statement. There is no problem. Read

[Bunnycake]

My only complaint about some ilvl cheesers is if you don't want to do anything that isn't CT at least do something and not afk if you really want a fast run.

[Gemina]

Totally agree. I doubt iLvl cheese is that much of a problem. There are many reasons to get CT other than first time mission and iLvl:

- people may queue for it directly for various reasons (WT book, relics or just “because”);
- there’s probably less people directly queuing for other raids than CT, thus less demand (CT is there to help complete duties first and if nobody queues for a specific raid, chances for it to pop are small);
- levelling other jobs and being between level 50-60;
- regardless of level, one may not have reached the point in the story where they can unlock the next raids;
- even with all level 90 characters with everything unlocked, there is the “luck” factor (Free to play are also limited to the first two raid series, so that’s a 50/50 chance to get CT based on luck alone);
- above everything else, other raids are entirely optional and many people don’t unlock them because they don’t want to or don’t know about them (the quest givers can be out of the way). I know several people like the previous poster’s wife who simply don’t like ARs much. There are a few raids I don’t like at all (Dun Scaith, Tower at Paradigm) and I am not unlocking them on my alts.

What this statement does very strongly, is it let's ilv cheesers know that there really isn't much need to do it at all. This explains in detail why CT has a greater likelihood to come up, and if wanting the roulette to give them something different, the odds are not in their favor. The thing is, two of which are the most likely culprits [duty completion, item level] are excluded by the list header. This can never express the full picture of what's going on. It's like dismissing the primary causes for things like water restrictions, while blaming it on some BS like climate change.

The main problem with this list is a player who qualifies for a higher level raid won't leave things to chance, and will ensure they get a CT raid by reducing their ilv, making everything in that list entirely redundant. This is an exploit. This along with the gripes from players should be everything you need to know that it is affecting the enjoyment of the game's subscribers.

It's crazy to me that anyone even tries to defend this situation with the Alliance Raid roulette. Makes absolutely zero sense, other than players enjoy the easy exp/tomes. They would also be the very first players to complain if the devs even out this playing field. Very much like when unreal trials went from UW to Sephirot. As I said before, the situation with Alliance Raids roulette is a clear exploit, akin to what players were doing with Castrum/Prae prior to 6.1 but without having to eat a penalty for ditching. It will be addressed eventually.

That being said, I seem to get a high ratio of Nier and Ivalice raids these days and even got Aglaia a few times.

That's cool. I got Puppet's Bunker a couple weeks ago. Players in there rejoiced in the chat because they did not get CT.

[FireMage]

What this statement does very strongly, is it let's ilv cheesers know that there really isn't much need to do it at all. This explains in detail why CT has a greater likelihood to come up, and if wanting the roulette to give them something different, the odds are not in their favor. The thing is, two of which are the most likely culprits [duty completion, item level] are excluded by the list header. This can never express the full picture of what's going on. It's like dismissing the primary causes for things like water restrictions, while blaming it on some BS like climate change.

The main problem with this list is a player who qualifies for a higher level raid won't leave things to chance, and will ensure they get a CT raid by reducing their ilv, making everything in that list entirely redundant. This is an exploit. This along with the gripes from players should be everything you need to know that it is affecting the enjoyment of the game's subscribers.

It's crazy to me that anyone even tries to defend this situation with the Alliance Raid roulette. Makes absolutely zero sense, other than players enjoy the easy exp/tomes. They would also be the very first players to complain if the devs even out this playing field. Very much like when unreal trials went from UW to Sephirot. As I said before, the situation with Alliance Raids roulette is a clear exploit, akin to what players were doing with Castrum/Prae prior to 6.1 but without having to eat a penalty for ditching. It will be addressed eventually.


That's cool. I got Puppet's Bunker a couple weeks ago. Players in there rejoiced in the chat because they did not get CT.

So many wasted words over a non issue. The roulette works as intended

[Gemina]

So many wasted words over a non issue. The roulette works as intended

Try again.

[FireMage]

Try again.

Don't need to, I'm already correct

[Midareyukki]

Try again.