Let's redefine "damage taxes"

[Arguscbf]

So far everyone agrees that difficulty is subjective and balancing around it is a terrible idea.
I'd say it's your turn to provide a proof to disproove difficulty is subjective.

I agree on this but still it's pretty disappointing to see SMN doing more DPS than RDM, not because of rotation itself but because SE and most ppl see RDM as prog job IMO. SMN is not even a caster anymore, even if both rotations are braindead RDM has a much busier rotation due to movement limitations and depends on RNG procs sometimes or else is potency loss. Not saying RDM should be at BLM level of DPS but still should be doing a little more than SMN.

[Mithron]

I agree on this but still it's pretty disappointing to see SMN doing more DPS than RDM, not because of rotation itself but because SE and most ppl see RDM as prog job IMO. SMN is not even a caster anymore, even if both rotations are braindead RDM has a much busier rotation due to movement limitations and depends on RNG procs sometimes or else is potency loss. Not saying RDM should be at BLM level of DPS but still should be doing a little more than SMN.

Embolden should be more rDPS than Searing Light, therefore RDM should do less than SMN regardless of effort. RDM's core identity is low damage high buffs. SMN should be given a more complex rotation too because most people don't enjoy how easy it is now. The bottom three DPS should be RDM > BRD > DNC, with raid DPS buffs being equivalent demanding that. You play RDM because you want to be a high support low personal damage job. You play BLM because you want to be a low support high personal damage job. You play SMN because you want to be a mix of both. That's the core identity of the three jobs, in my opinion. Perhaps Embolden needs to be better, but it's already equivalent to Mug. NIN should be lower, NIN is my fav melee and one of my fav jobs to play and I want it to be high support low personal DPS, that's its core identity to me, too.

[Arguscbf]

Embolden should be more rDPS than Searing Light, therefore RDM should do less than SMN regardless of effort. RDM's core identity is low damage high buffs. SMN should be given a more complex rotation too because most people don't enjoy how easy it is now. The bottom three DPS should be RDM > BRD > DNC, with raid DPS buffs being equivalent demanding that. You play RDM because you want to be a high support low personal damage job. You play BLM because you want to be a low support high personal damage job. You play SMN because you want to be a mix of both. That's the core identity of the three jobs, in my opinion. Perhaps Embolden needs to be better, but it's already equivalent to Mug. NIN should be lower, NIN is my fav melee and one of my fav jobs to play and I want it to be high support low personal DPS, that's its core identity to me, too.

Sorry but i don't agree on that about SMN. SMN has lots of very good support skills either. And this core identity of high support low dps just doesn't apply as we can see both MNK and NIN being top rDPS.

[CKNovel]

I agree on this but still it's pretty disappointing to see SMN doing more DPS than RDM, not because of rotation itself but because SE and most ppl see RDM as prog job IMO. SMN is not even a caster anymore, even if both rotations are braindead RDM has a much busier rotation due to movement limitations and depends on RNG procs sometimes or else is potency loss. Not saying RDM should be at BLM level of DPS but still should be doing a little more than SMN.

I can understand that, it feels wrong to not be rewarded for playing your job.

The major problem with RDM and SMN is the mobility difference and the raid tier.
For once we got an actual tier where you need to move a lot during 30 seconds, but hitboxes are massive and BLM/SMN are ridiculously mobile nowadays.
RDM somehow didn't get the mobility memo. But if SMN and RDM had an equal mobility (Or played in a content that didn't required as much mobility) then they would be very close in term of difficulty.

In Endwalker, I'm playing tank and I wouldn't care if a Warrior was doing the same damage as my Gunbreaker.
I know it sucks to not be rewarded for your effort, but you can trust me it sucks even more to be forced on the lower-end because of some biased balancing metric.

[Arguscbf]

I can understand that, it feels wrong to not be rewarded for playing your job.

The major problem with RDM and SMN is the mobility difference and the raid tier.

Yeah, it really sucks cause i'm in love with RDM gameplay in Endwalker. It's gameplay improved more and more over the expansions. Let's hope for a better raid tier next time, i don't wanna change jobs cause of this...