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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Does anyone else get weird vibes from this post? The off-putting nature of it aside, I'm thankful that other fantasy games don't cater to whatever this sort of player is supposed to be. Uncomfortable is only one of many words I could use to describe this.
    The majority of fantasy games do in fact contain the death of significant party members and/or people close to them.

    FFII - numerous temporary party members and side characters on the side of the Flynn Rebellion

    FFIV - Anna, Tellah, Rydia's mother, with numerous "fakeouts" only being reversed after a lot of time has passed rather than after 30 minutes of Ultima Thule feels rollercoasters.

    FFV - the death of King Tycoon, Galuf, and both of Bartz's parents which happened prior to the game but were still addressed in the story.

    FFVI - the death of Cid and Celes eventually losing hope and her (failed) suicide attempt is in fact the canon way in which those events are supposed to play out, with the fish minigame being designed to be intentionally obscure. Blasphemy time!

    FFVII - Aerith, etc.

    FFIX - the death of Queen Brahne and how it impacted Garnet/Dagger. Blasphemy time! The death of Vivi, etc.

    FFX - Tidus, prior to the option to revive him in FFX-2 before no doubt Mikko will try and write a whole other essay about how at the time it was canon that he was going to come back to life!! It wasn't. And anyone who tries to claim that it was is similarly disingenuous.

    FFXV - the death of King Regis and eventually, Noctis. Not to mention Ignis going blind in a sacrificial attempt to protect Noctis after Luna was murdered by Ardyn.

    FFXVI - the death of the Archduke of Rosaria, robbing Clive and Joshua of their father.

    Dragon Age series - needs no explanation.

    Fire Emblem series - again, needs no explanation across its various games though I specifically have 3 Houses in mind.

    Bayonetta 3 -

    Stranger of Paradise - the death of Astos, Sarah and the royal family, and the rest of the main party before they are transformed into the elemental fiends.


    I could go on, but the ego stroking combined with recent push for overly-kiddified content is definitely a FFXIV exclusive thing. Everything thrown away for a power fantasy where the good guys have had near constant wins as of late while suffering no permanent consequences.

    Your pathetic attempt to one-up me has failed. FFXIV players have been pandered to in such a strange way in EW that I truly do not think that anyone who seriously subscribes to this sort of messaging will be able to cope with any real life loss in a healthy way. Rather than showing what to actually do and how to realistically handle death and permanent physical disability, everything just gets waived away under the nonsensical banner of hope "triumphing" over despair. There's no dynamis to save people in real life when things go south.

    And yeah, full grown adults who are into this sort of weird kiddie nonsense are offputting individuals who I actively want nothing to do with and want to fully exclude from the spaces I inhabit both in real life and online. I do not believe that sort of player should have ever been catered to from the addition of Lalafells instead of a more dwarf-like race to the mess we have on our hands with the Loporrits and other meme beastmen.
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    Last edited by aveyond-dreams; 11-02-2022 at 06:44 PM.
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