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    Erisu_Yamakawa's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    It sucks that it came to this but if they hope to reduce chargebacks from stolen credit cards they might still think it's worth it even if less people spend money on the cash shop now.
    But surely the amount they lose in chargebacks would be lower than the amount spent on gifts of mounts/minions/emotes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erisu_Yamakawa View Post
    But surely the amount they lose in chargebacks would be lower than the amount spent on gifts of mounts/minions/emotes
    oh definitely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erisu_Yamakawa View Post
    But surely the amount they lose in chargebacks would be lower than the amount spent on gifts of mounts/minions/emotes
    I dont know. For what other reason would they restrict this feature in this way if not because they hope to make more money this way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    I dont know. For what other reason would they restrict this feature in this way if not because they hope to make more money this way?
    I don't see how they'd make -more- money this way. Cheremia and I will be spending hundreds of dollars less now...
    Just as she buys for her bestie... I buy for my friends all the time.
    I have bought more gift codes for friends than I have items for myself, I think.
    Now we can't?
    That seems like a huge loss.
    I feel like this was not as well thought out as they think it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AshDidit View Post
    I don't see how they'd make -more- money this way. Cheremia and I will be spending hundreds of dollars less now...
    Just as she buys for her bestie... I buy for my friends all the time.
    I have bought more gift codes for friends than I have items for myself, I think.
    Now we can't?
    That seems like a huge loss.
    I feel like this was not as well thought out as they think it was.
    From what I understood about shady key resellers, chargebacks from stolen creditcards are actually very expensive on the company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    From what I understood about shady key resellers, chargebacks from stolen creditcards are actually very expensive on the company.
    Yeah I can understand all those issues, too

    But I really like gifting things to my friends because I just-- like doing so.
    I work hard for my money and I personally don't feel like I can spend it on much myself, except i splurge in commissions or buy myself an outfit sometimes.

    The friendlist thing is good, they can even increase the amount of time somebody has to be in the friendlist for all I care.
    But crippling EVERYBODY because of RMT just feels meh.

    Not talking against you, I know what you're saying (not that you get the wrong impression, i'm talking in general) btw.

    And I was so hyped about the lotus, too...

    Edit: Guess I'll just give her money to buy it then, tsk
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    Last edited by Cheremia; 10-25-2022 at 07:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    From what I understood about shady key resellers, chargebacks from stolen creditcards are actually very expensive on the company.
    The way to fix -that- issue is the same way every other business does it.
    Require the name and address of the credit card to match exactly to the game's account holder.

    In other words,
    Jane Doe
    123 Maple Lane
    Ul'dah, Eorzea
    12345

    cannot use

    John Smith
    32 Privet Drive
    Hogwart's, England
    64321
    credit card to buy her friend a mount.

    Problem solved.

    And the credit card processor SE uses (Inteligo? I think) DOES have the ability to compare them to make sure they match.
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    Last edited by AshDidit; 10-25-2022 at 08:10 PM.

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