We anticipate that even with this update, third parties will continue

[Shibi]

Excuse me, maybe I wanted to gift the Lotus mount to my best friend?

They lost 2 lotus sales with me for this. one for me, one for friend. heh. The are going to lose a lot more money than they imagined I think.

I wonder if this means that you can get in trouble if the person you gift an item to, resells it?

They are non-transferrable, I guess.

Because they cannot check if the friend has it. While they can check if you do

Which is weird, because we can check easily before gifting... These are yours. I see you have the peacock, so shouldn't gift it for you should you be on my FL.

[Saraide]

They lost 2 lotus sales with me for this. one for me, one for friend. heh. The are going to lose a lot more money than they imagined I think.



They are non-transferrable, I guess.

It sucks that it came to this but if they hope to reduce chargebacks from stolen credit cards they might still think it's worth it even if less people spend money on the cash shop now.

[Shibi]

It sucks that it came to this but if they hope to reduce chargebacks from stolen credit cards they might still think it's worth it even if less people spend money on the cash shop now.

Yep. Always a case of "and this is why we can't have nice things" isn't it!

I will hope that they can put in some form of linking to check if the recipient has the mount or minion (both of these are on lodestone) before xmas. Those are fun gifts for dear friends. Emotes, I can hope they one day also fix - that's the one I like gifting most.

[Erisu_Yamakawa]

It sucks that it came to this but if they hope to reduce chargebacks from stolen credit cards they might still think it's worth it even if less people spend money on the cash shop now.

But surely the amount they lose in chargebacks would be lower than the amount spent on gifts of mounts/minions/emotes

[AshDidit]

But surely the amount they lose in chargebacks would be lower than the amount spent on gifts of mounts/minions/emotes

oh definitely.

[Saraide]

But surely the amount they lose in chargebacks would be lower than the amount spent on gifts of mounts/minions/emotes

I dont know. For what other reason would they restrict this feature in this way if not because they hope to make more money this way?

[AshDidit]

I dont know. For what other reason would they restrict this feature in this way if not because they hope to make more money this way?

I don't see how they'd make -more- money this way. Cheremia and I will be spending hundreds of dollars less now...
Just as she buys for her bestie... I buy for my friends all the time.
I have bought more gift codes for friends than I have items for myself, I think.
Now we can't?
That seems like a huge loss.
I feel like this was not as well thought out as they think it was.

[Saraide]

I don't see how they'd make -more- money this way. Cheremia and I will be spending hundreds of dollars less now...
Just as she buys for her bestie... I buy for my friends all the time.
I have bought more gift codes for friends than I have items for myself, I think.
Now we can't?
That seems like a huge loss.
I feel like this was not as well thought out as they think it was.

From what I understood about shady key resellers, chargebacks from stolen creditcards are actually very expensive on the company.

[Cheremia]

From what I understood about shady key resellers, chargebacks from stolen creditcards are actually very expensive on the company.

Yeah I can understand all those issues, too

But I really like gifting things to my friends because I just-- like doing so.
I work hard for my money and I personally don't feel like I can spend it on much myself, except i splurge in commissions or buy myself an outfit sometimes.

The friendlist thing is good, they can even increase the amount of time somebody has to be in the friendlist for all I care.
But crippling EVERYBODY because of RMT just feels meh.

Not talking against you, I know what you're saying (not that you get the wrong impression, i'm talking in general) btw.

And I was so hyped about the lotus, too...

Edit: Guess I'll just give her money to buy it then, tsk

[AshDidit]

From what I understood about shady key resellers, chargebacks from stolen creditcards are actually very expensive on the company.

The way to fix -that- issue is the same way every other business does it.
Require the name and address of the credit card to match exactly to the game's account holder.

In other words,
Jane Doe
123 Maple Lane
Ul'dah, Eorzea
12345

cannot use

John Smith
32 Privet Drive
Hogwart's, England
64321
credit card to buy her friend a mount.

Problem solved.

And the credit card processor SE uses (Inteligo? I think) DOES have the ability to compare them to make sure they match.