We anticipate that even with this update, third parties will continue

[AshDidit]

I wonder if this means that you can get in trouble if the person you gift an item to, resells it?

[Cheremia]

Excuse me, maybe I wanted to gift the Lotus mount to my best friend?

So... now I can't?
I gifted her the fat cat too, what is this?

The friend thing is fine but why also restrict mounts?

[Erisu_Yamakawa]

Excuse me, maybe I wanted to gift the Lotus mount to my best friend?

So... now I can't?
I gifted her the fat cat too, what is this?

The friend thing is fine but why also restrict mounts?

Because they cannot check if the friend has it. While they can check if you do

[Shibi]

Excuse me, maybe I wanted to gift the Lotus mount to my best friend?

They lost 2 lotus sales with me for this. one for me, one for friend. heh. The are going to lose a lot more money than they imagined I think.

I wonder if this means that you can get in trouble if the person you gift an item to, resells it?

They are non-transferrable, I guess.

Because they cannot check if the friend has it. While they can check if you do

Which is weird, because we can check easily before gifting... These are yours. I see you have the peacock, so shouldn't gift it for you should you be on my FL.

[AshDidit]

They claim this is done to prevent someone getting a gift they already own.

They also claim it's to prevent RMT, then admit RMT can still be done (with a 72 hour delay).
The thing also says it restricts 'one time use' items but there are tons of those still giftable.
Feels like a bunch of inexplicable fibbing.

[Saraide]

They lost 2 lotus sales with me for this. one for me, one for friend. heh. The are going to lose a lot more money than they imagined I think.



They are non-transferrable, I guess.

It sucks that it came to this but if they hope to reduce chargebacks from stolen credit cards they might still think it's worth it even if less people spend money on the cash shop now.

[Andromedia]

If I'm actually friends with someone, i can just ask them what mounts/emotes/minions/orch rolls they have. If i choose not to and get something they already had, that's on me. That rule seems geared more towards all the rp venues that do giveaways. Just let me spend money on my friends.

[Shibi]

It sucks that it came to this but if they hope to reduce chargebacks from stolen credit cards they might still think it's worth it even if less people spend money on the cash shop now.

Yep. Always a case of "and this is why we can't have nice things" isn't it!

I will hope that they can put in some form of linking to check if the recipient has the mount or minion (both of these are on lodestone) before xmas. Those are fun gifts for dear friends. Emotes, I can hope they one day also fix - that's the one I like gifting most.

[Erisu_Yamakawa]

It sucks that it came to this but if they hope to reduce chargebacks from stolen credit cards they might still think it's worth it even if less people spend money on the cash shop now.

But surely the amount they lose in chargebacks would be lower than the amount spent on gifts of mounts/minions/emotes

[AshDidit]

If I'm actually friends with someone, i can just ask them what mounts/emotes/minions/orch rolls they have. If i choose not to and get something they already had, that's on me. That rule seems geared more towards all the rp venues that do giveaways. Just let me spend money on my friends.

That doesn't make sense either. RP venues literally give the items away with no expectation of any kind of 'reimbursement' other than 'be here and RP'.