We anticipate that even with this update, third parties will continue

[AshDidit]

(Editing this post to include the complete sentence from the lodestone topic)
We anticipate that even with this update, third parties will continue their attempts to sell fraudulently obtained items at lower prices
by temporarily registering the buyer on their friend list.


SO you've basically punished the law/rule abiding players for what criminals have done

But... you ADMIT that the criminals will CONTINUE doing it?

And you've limited what we can give to our friends (of 72 hours or more) to the most ridiculous 'gift' items you sell? So.. I can no longer give my bestie a minion because some RMT scumbag bought one and resold it in game for gil? GIL?! PIXEL MONEY?

I am being restricted... over pixel money... and other people's criminal behavior that you ADMIT OPENLY they are still ABLE TO DO?

Why did you not just make it so that the items can only be bought with credit cards and make it so those credit cards have to match exactly the name and address on the account buying it?

THAT would have actually LESSENED the RMT activity of using 'stolen credit cards' to RMT mog items...

That would reduce the number of people reselling items because it can be immediately tracked back to the player...

All your 'fix' does is punish those of us who would never abuse the system to begin with.

A complete 'jerk move'. I do not approve. Let me give my friends minions again.

#freetheminions
sheesh

[Shibi]

For anyone wondering what the OP is talking about, it's in relation to: https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...7321b5c2e601d8

And for me; Ah sad, I won't be able to give my friend of three years new emotes as they come out

What a pity.

[Saraide]

I am not familiar with how gifting cash shop items worked previously, what new restrictions does this place on it?

[AshDidit]

You can't give them mounts or minions either.
But dye? sure...
a level skip or game skip? sure...
clothes? sure...

Just not the minions, mounts or emotes... you know... the most popular 'christmas gift items' in game?

My point is more that the 'fix' doesn't fix -anything-. But hey, thanks for glossing over that part. :P

[Shibi]

I am not familiar with how gifting cash shop items worked previously, what new restrictions does this place on it?

In the past you got a code in your email that you could copy paste to a friend and they could enter it into mogstation.

The new system will send some items to the friend's mailbox directly - but you need to be a friend for a set time, and things like minions, emotes, and mounts are not allowed to be gifted any more. Some clothing seems to be. The level/story skip is for sure though.

[AshDidit]

I am not familiar with how gifting cash shop items worked previously, what new restrictions does this place on it?

The person you intend to gift has to now have been on your friends list for more than 72 hours (I think this is actually a -good- thing)
But what you can give them is now restricted...
and if SE decides it's suspicious they can 'delete' your gift.


The bad part is that in their post on this topic they admit that the criminals it was intended to stop... won't actually be stopped.
So it fixes nothing. :/

[Erisu_Yamakawa]

It has made the feature redundant for me.

You can still gift fantasia too.

[vanaii]

Surely they can expand this in the future with a check to make sure the recipient has/does not have the one time use item? They seem to be leaving money on the table.

[Erisu_Yamakawa]

Yeah, given that they can see if you have the item already now. Just that I would have first done the backend API prep and then rolled out the change

[Shibi]

Surely they can expand this in the future with a check to make sure the recipient has/does not have the one time use item? They seem to be leaving money on the table.

Hopefully. Yes.

Minions is certainly a weird one. They claim this is done to prevent someone getting a gift they already own. However, minions are clearly viewable on lodestone, so it's pretty easy for us to check if our friend has the gift first.

Hopefully they can smarten it up a bit and do some form of linking to check the recipient's unlocks.