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    Merry Christmas

    And you do this right before Christmas? Do you have any idea how much this hurts your loyal players? I myself have gifted and been gifted multiple items in the "Mount, Minion, Emote" realm because those are the most popular.

    This is a foolish decision based on NOTHING proven. This will do absolutely nothing to stop them. They always find a way around this in no time, thus all you are doing with this is hurting your loyal players and making us angry.
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    There is a post on twitter by Lady Xhiel White, or @Miss_Xhiel . She made a post regarding why such actions were taken, and its related back with SE giving out the update for everyone to update their passwords due to breaches. Its EXACTLY about that, and the fact that doing ton of purchases revokes will get the companies processing said transactions to ban the company for having these problems.


    I honestly recommend anyone who is curious to look it up and read it. (Its 15 tweets.) Its all legal stuff; and I think it'll help with some confusion. I don't like how things are happening, but it is what it is.
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    Yeah, given that they can see if you have the item already now. Just that I would have first done the backend API prep and then rolled out the change
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    Excuse me, maybe I wanted to gift the Lotus mount to my best friend?

    So... now I can't?
    I gifted her the fat cat too, what is this?

    The friend thing is fine but why also restrict mounts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheremia View Post
    Excuse me, maybe I wanted to gift the Lotus mount to my best friend?

    So... now I can't?
    I gifted her the fat cat too, what is this?

    The friend thing is fine but why also restrict mounts?
    Because they cannot check if the friend has it. While they can check if you do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheremia View Post
    Excuse me, maybe I wanted to gift the Lotus mount to my best friend?
    They lost 2 lotus sales with me for this. one for me, one for friend. heh. The are going to lose a lot more money than they imagined I think.

    Quote Originally Posted by AshDidit View Post
    I wonder if this means that you can get in trouble if the person you gift an item to, resells it?
    They are non-transferrable, I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Erisu_Yamakawa View Post
    Because they cannot check if the friend has it. While they can check if you do
    Which is weird, because we can check easily before gifting... These are yours. I see you have the peacock, so shouldn't gift it for you should you be on my FL.

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    Last edited by Shibi; 10-25-2022 at 06:52 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    They lost 2 lotus sales with me for this. one for me, one for friend. heh. The are going to lose a lot more money than they imagined I think.



    They are non-transferrable, I guess.
    It sucks that it came to this but if they hope to reduce chargebacks from stolen credit cards they might still think it's worth it even if less people spend money on the cash shop now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    It sucks that it came to this but if they hope to reduce chargebacks from stolen credit cards they might still think it's worth it even if less people spend money on the cash shop now.
    Yep. Always a case of "and this is why we can't have nice things" isn't it!

    I will hope that they can put in some form of linking to check if the recipient has the mount or minion (both of these are on lodestone) before xmas. Those are fun gifts for dear friends. Emotes, I can hope they one day also fix - that's the one I like gifting most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    It sucks that it came to this but if they hope to reduce chargebacks from stolen credit cards they might still think it's worth it even if less people spend money on the cash shop now.
    But surely the amount they lose in chargebacks would be lower than the amount spent on gifts of mounts/minions/emotes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    They lost 2 lotus sales with me for this. one for me, one for friend. heh. The are going to lose a lot more money than they imagined I think.



    They are non-transferrable, I guess.



    Which is weird, because we can check easily before gifting... These are yours. I see you have the peacock, so shouldn't gift it for you should you be on my FL.

    And i know she can't afford mogmounts right now, so I'm the one that gives them to her when I feel like it.
    I KNOW what things my best friend has from the mogstation because I gift her most of it lmao

    Whatever they're claiming, pretty sure that doesn't work out like they think it does

    Might hinder RMT, but also hinders people just gifting things

    I got the whale as a Birthdaypresent, too

    Well that's very annoying tbh
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