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  1. 10-21-2022 09:02 PM #1
    Cleretic
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    A bit of splitting hairs there, but that’s fine.

    Atonement can just as easily mean repaying a debt or making things right for wrongs committed (aka jail time form a crime), and redemption can just as easily carry heavy religious connotations (aka redeemed from sin).

    That is to say, a murderer with a 20 year sentence might repent and find God and have redemption 5 years into his sentence, but he is still serving those 20 years to atone for his crimes in the eyes of society.

    Ultimately, when I say a story of redemption, I don’t think anyone is going to confuse what I mean.
    My terminology might not be perfect, but we're definitely looking at a story of internally-motivated betterment with the Omicrons more than we are an external one. And personally I find those stories a lot more compelling and believable, in large part because it more readily allows the audience not to believe it if they don't want to. If that arc is mostly for their own sake, then the story rarely ends up asking you to agree with their improvement, which leads to me finding my own stance much more.

    The game lets you hate Gaius even after everything, it doesn't really let you hate Fordola. (lucky for me I don't, Fordola was the best part of Stormblood.)
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  2. 10-22-2022 02:06 AM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    My terminology might not be perfect, but we're definitely looking at a story of internally-motivated betterment with the Omicrons more than we are an external one. And personally I find those stories a lot more compelling and believable, in large part because it more readily allows the audience not to believe it if they don't want to. If that arc is mostly for their own sake, then the story rarely ends up asking you to agree with their improvement, which leads to me finding my own stance much more.

    The game lets you hate Gaius even after everything, it doesn't really let you hate Fordola. (lucky for me I don't, Fordola was the best part of Stormblood.)
    No worries- I follow what your saying, and I agree- the overall narrative in places of XIV of improvement for its own intrinsic worth is usually a good story…and there have absolutely been some really weird/crap points in the plot when we have agree with things because “I dunno, reasons I guess”.
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