A game for 4 year olds

[SentioftheHoukai]

I think it's interesting to see so much discourse around excusing the literal Terminators with likely bigger bodycounts than both the Ascians and Venat combined, topped by only the Meteia get continually excused for the atrocities they committed when this fandom still can't stop themselves from hating the Garleans and Ascians and inventing one thousand excuses for any other moral monsters. Never change, GCBTW, never change.

[Absimiliard]

topped by only the Meteia

There's a good chance their kill count beats out the Meteia's as well.

[kaynide]

I think it's interesting to see so much discourse around excusing the literal Terminators with likely bigger bodycounts than both the Ascians and Venat combined, topped by only the Meteia get continually excused for the atrocities they committed when this fandom still can't stop themselves from hating the Garleans and Ascians and inventing one thousand excuses for any other moral monsters. Never change, GCBTW, never change.

I mean, the Romans historically killed/fed to lions/enslaved my ancestors. Doesn’t mean I have to hate Romans now. Heck my grandfather was at Pearl Harbor and here I am married to a Japanese woman.

Whatever the Omicrons did may not be forgivable, but they didn’t do it to us. The Garleans have actively killed several friends and are directly responsible for a lot of current hardship that is near and real to us.

Call it NIMBY if you want, but I am more a sins of the father not being the sins of the son kinda guy.

[Carin-Eri]

I mean, the Romans historically killed/fed to lions/enslaved my ancestors. Doesn’t mean I have to hate Romans now. Heck my grandfather was at Pearl Harbor and here I am married to a Japanese woman.

Whatever the Omicrons did may not be forgivable, but they didn’t do it to us. The Garleans have actively killed several friends and are directly responsible for a lot of current hardship that is near and real to us.

Call it NIMBY if you want, but I am more a sins of the father not being the sins of the son kinda guy.

Okay - but to repeat what Absimiliard said a few posts back:

The problem, as I said before, is that these faux Omicrons have the same characteristics and intentions as the originals. They were even prepared to send out a signal to the original Omicrons, which unlike the other races in Ultima Thule aren't extinct. It's noted this would have seen them resume their mission of destroying all life, which their counterparts in Ultima Thule were well aware of. In other words, they were fully and knowingly willing to be complicit in the eradication of every living thing on every world.

[kaynide]

Okay - but to repeat what Absimiliard said a few posts back:

I think the key point is the “were”. A central..if not THE central theme of FFXIV is redemption/reconciliation. Despite having aeons to do so, the controlling AI that we met had doubts and never actually committed to doing anything destructive. Rather it was doing the opposite (an act of nurturing) in caring for a random tree.

Indeed when we meet them in Thule they are largely peaceful towards us (specifically meaning the humanoid Omicrons and not any other bits/robotic sentries roaming).

[aveyond-dreams]

I think the key point is the “were”. A central..if not THE central theme of FFXIV is redemption/reconciliation. Despite having aeons to do so, the controlling AI that we met had doubts and never actually committed to doing anything destructive. Rather it was doing the opposite (an act of nurturing) in caring for a random tree.

Indeed when we meet them in Thule they are largely peaceful towards us (specifically meaning the humanoid Omicrons and not any other bits/robotic sentries roaming).

Ok then. I'll be waiting for the ending of Pandaemoniun to bring back the Ancients, since everyone is entitled to a happy ending around here even if it makes no sense. The terminator robots didn't need a redemption arc, certainly not one this ridiculous from top to bottom.