The Lessons Not Learned.

[LianaThorne]

Actually, yeah you’re right. My bad. I think the more fitting words are white knights, or cultist. I dunno, you pick one you like more.

I mean, I'll take any word that where the actions of someone actually match the definition of the word. That would be lovely.

[Lustre]

I was hesitant to write variant and criterion off as "one and done" but it looks like it's more like 10 and done. Finished and got the rewards I want last night, from two evenings of casual play. Please dont overwhelm me Yoshi P. Then I couldnt idle in limsa all day.... uwu

[Dionysius]

yoship better watch out. Aveyond and all his imaginary friends/followers unsubbing from the game will surely kill it. this time.

Forum never changes... Fishing business is thriving in this fishery, I mean forum. They all jumped at these stinky baits from same dude that want to kill the game.

[Carin-Eri]

I'm really not miffed at all about the relic quest. I think hilibrand is pretty unique, you either like the humor or you don't.

I don't know, to be honest. I'm on the fence with it.

On one hand I do enjoy the humor. On the other, I find the repetitiveness of it tiresome now. The dialogue generally remains funny - even hilarious at times - but I don't find the whole 'legs sticking out of the ground' scenario even remotely funny anymore. And, whilst the new content does sort of address this (Gerolt's dialogue) I've always found Godbert parading around in his underwear completely cringe.

[Thoosa]

I’ve watched some videos on the variant dungeons and they look just like normal ones but with potd graphics, as in trash - boss - trash - boss - trash - boss and the rewards don’t give me any real incentive to do it.

I assume there are no twists on the difficulty formula?

Doesn’t look anywhere near an M+ equivalent and their shelf life will be small.

It feels like something you’d have no expectations for and still be disappointed.

[aveyond-dreams]

Forum never changes... Fishing business is thriving in this fishery, I mean forum. They all jumped at these stinky baits from same dude that want to kill the game.

Everything I've written is because I want to prevent this game from dying but if it keeps on this downward spiral then I all can do is wash my hands of this situation. FFXIV players deserve better than what they are getting. I have been here since day 1 of ARR and I want nothing more than for FFXIV to remain king of the mmorpg genre but when it came to Endwalker that crown was cast away, for reasons I and many others have pointed out. If some of these people who I now know thanks to another thread are decades older than myself could stop acting so immaturely then perhaps they would've realised that a long time ago.

There's nothing left for me to discuss until the next round of Live Letters, whenever they may be.

[SassyAssassin]

The self importance and arrogance is too much holy…

[Payadopa]

I'm starting to wonder if you like ANYTHING about the game. It's always a long winded complaint. Why do you even play?

At this point he's writing more about the game than playing it, I'm sure. I got so much stuff to do and dont even know where to start, honestly. But everyone is different so... eh. I'm just saying his constant... uh.. critique would hold more water if he wouldn't do it pretty much constantly and about literally anything, no offense. I do find a few points valid, mind. At this point it's more like white noise, though.

[Payadopa]

Everything I've written is because I want to prevent this game from dying but if it keeps on this downward spiral then I all can do is wash my hands of this situation. FFXIV players deserve better than what they are getting.

Dude, I also have been here since the closed alpha for 1.0. The game has never been more successful. That's just a fact if you go by numbers alone. Not liking something is fair, but what you're saying is straight up not true.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Like how EW relic is gated behind Hildibrand? Which require two trials and hours of cutscenes? Or how the relic is already gated by countless hours of MSQ itself?
That aside, yes being gated by Hildibrand is probably still easier and shorter compared to being gated behind both ivalice and bozja. But who says the dev can’t cheat a bit? They can make it so that canon-wise, the player’s WoL has experienced Bozja so we don’t have to finish it to start EW relics.


It might have less activity than Eureka, but I still find a group or two during prime time for Bozja and Zadnor. DR is a bit more difficult, but I can see some people making PF for it. They’re already generous enough with the buffed Echo.


Why do you feel called out Ikara? I wasn’t even talking to you
And I can the same to you. Just because you don’t agree with people like OP doesn’t mean he’s a hater or fool. You use that terminology to devalue their opinion which only makes you look bitter and upset.
Don’t project yourself on others.


??? Now you just assume things. I like Eureka, I like Bozja. I know some people from “my camp” (as you weirdly put) who also like zone-based relic system. Why should we hate it?


Actually, yeah you’re right. My bad. I think the more fitting words are white knights, or cultist. I dunno, you pick one you like more.

Ok you're clearly either not reading or aren't comprehending...

I simply asked WHO here is shilling in which you have yet to answer the question. Apparently me inquiring further someone means I feel called out? Oke bud. I never ONCE called OP a hater or a fool so wtf are you even talking about? I said IF we're gonna call people defending the game shills n white knights (which is wrong) then we can call the opposite haters (still wrong). You know...giving what you get? Being fair on both sides? Didn't think I needed to lay this out to you people.

Also I've seen MANY times here people complain about not having new n fresh content with new ideas. People hated Boz cause it was just Eureka again. I'm not dumb. If they did release another Eureka zone certain folks will indeed complain about dev laziness. Again we've seen it many times here already. Never said you SHOULD hate anything. Maybe go back n reread?

Then again...reading isn't the issue. You're trying to purposely twist what I'm saying to make it look bad, which is another common thing with (yes) your camp.