That Which He Does Not Play

[LianaThorne]

At this point people like to complain. I find it immature. If I don't like something I just don't do the thing. If I dislike a lot of things then I just play something else.

Idk about you but I'd prefer to live in a world where everything isn't 100% positive all the time.

If people wanna complain about the sky being blue instead of yellow, let em. What does someone else's random opinion really do to your day?

[IkaraGreydancer]

Idk about you but I'd prefer to live in a world where everything isn't 100% positive all the time.

If people wanna complain about the sky being blue instead of yellow, let em. What does it affect your life?

Hmmm. Easy answer. If enough people complain about something in a game you feel is fine, it has a chance to change into something you don't like. That's how it effects you.

I loved Ast in SB but folks complained about it just being a balance fish bot among other things. Now the class isn't fun for me to play due to changes. I want Noct Sect back but thats forever dead now

[LianaThorne]

Hmmm. Easy answer. If enough people complain about something in a game you feel is fine, it has a chance to change into something you don't like. That's how it effects you

That's a you problem.

If you love something, other people's opinions shouldn't change that love. Did you fall in love with something because other people told you to or did you find your own reasons?

Gotta learn to ignore peer pressure eventually/hold your own thoughts without being swayed by others that you don't even know lol.

[IkaraGreydancer]

That's a you problem.

If you love something, other people's opinions shouldn't change that love. Did you fall in love with something because other people told you to or did you find your own reasons?

Gotta learn to ignore peer pressure eventually/hold your own thoughts without being swayed by others that you don't even know lol.

Ok so by that logic folks who hate how healers have been gutted shouldn't complain cause that's a "them" issue.

You see how off that sounds? I'd like to think you just didn't read that correctly

[LianaThorne]

Ok so by that logic folks who hate how healers have been gutted shouldn't complain cause that's a "them" issue.

You see how off that sounds? I'd like to think you just didn't read that correctly

I think my point still stands. If you think healers are fine then continue thinking they're fine. That's your right and you're allowed to enjoy it. The same goes for the people who do not like it. Their opinions, however, do not need to affect yours unless you personally choose to. Which in that case...is a YOU problem for allowing your own opinions to be invalidated by randoms instead of sticking to your own experience. You can easily just keep enjoying healer the exact same way you are now in one corner and let them continue voicing their concerns in the other corner. One does not need to affect the other.

I don't think you read mine correctly tbh lol.

[SannaR]

I think my point still stands. If you think healers are fine then continue thinking they're fine. That's your right and you're allowed to enjoy it. The same goes for the people who do not like it. Their opinions, however, do not need to affect yours unless you personally choose to, which in that case...is a YOU problem for allowing your own opinions to be invalidated by randoms. You can easily just keep enjoying healer the exact same way you are now and let them continue voicing their concerns. One does not need to affect the other.

I don't think you read mine correctly tbh lol.

I think you misunderstand their original point. In that if something got changed that they liked or enjoyed by the demands of those who didn't they then will now become those who don't like whatever got changed. Like there are some who didn't mind or sort of liked how Bard was back in HW. Or how many liked how SMN played pre EW. There's people who enjoyed SB Ast yet they no longer are able to enjoy these things.

[LianaThorne]

I think you misunderstand their original point. In that if something got changed that they liked or enjoyed by the demands of those who didn't they then will now become those who don't like whatever got changed. Like there are some who didn't mind or sort of liked how Bard was back in HW. Or how many liked how SMN played pre EW. There's people who enjoyed SB Ast yet they no longer are able to enjoy these things.

I mean, if something they liked got changed into something they didn't then they'd have the same right to voice their concerns/criticisms in the same manner as those who had complaints in the first place (which usually tends to happen when things change). As I said from the start, one side has the same right as the other.

My ultimate point was that, on an individual level, their opinion shouldn't be swayed by another unless they actually agree with it. But, to put it bluntly, life also isn't fair sometimes and one side won't always get what they want...literally just like people who have been voicing concerns about healers for x amount of years now. That doesn't mean they should just not talk about it anymore though because others want things to stay the same and not change. Change is just a part of life.

[Renalt]

Idk about you but I'd prefer to live in a world where everything isn't 100% positive all the time.

If people wanna complain about the sky being blue instead of yellow, let em. What does it affect your life?

Oh no I agree. Toxic Positivity is a thing and it is VERY common here. It's quite weird really. However I just find it very annoying and almost babyish to constantly complain about something one could just...walk away from. Even more so when certain individuals seem to do nothing BUT complain.

I have my gripes about the game too. I don't care for Island Sanctuary, I think the Viera/Hrothgar issue is just a bad joke now with them outright refusing to fix it (Doesn't affect me since I'm a hyur but I understand their frustration ) and I LOVE PvP but PvP is just not something I like to do here because...well I don't like it.

[LianaThorne]

Oh no I agree. Toxic Positivity is a thing and it is VERY common here. It's quite weird really. However I just find it very annoying and almost babyish to constantly complain about something one could just...walk away from. Even more so when certain individuals seem to do nothing BUT complain.

I have my gripes about the game too. I don't care for Island Sanctuary, I think the Viera/Hrothgar issue is just a bad joke now with them outright refusing to fix it (Doesn't affect me since I'm a hyur but I understand their frustration ) and I LOVE PvP but PvP is just not something I like to do here because...well I don't like it.

As it's been repeated multiple times: The people who voice complaints & criticisms are the ones that still care enough to try to make a change. You'd rather people just give up on a game they enjoy just because they take issue with one part of it/stay silent instead of creating an outlet for others to voice similar problems in the hope of making the devs aware that something is wrong?

Wha?

[Renalt]

As it's been repeated multiple times: The people who voice complaints & criticisms are the ones that still care enough to try to make a change. You'd rather people just give up on a game they enjoy just because they take issue with one part of it/stay silent instead of creating an outlet for others to voice similar problems in the hope of making the devs aware that something is wrong?

Wha?

That's the thing. Nothing bugs me THAT much. I just don't do those things. Maybe I'm just way more tolerant of things. I just...adapt. They change it? Ok...do I like it? Yes? Great. Do I dislike it? Yes? Do I dislike it enough to stop doing it? No? Ok carry on. Do I dislike it enough to stop or quit? Yes? Ok I'll quit.

Money speaks more than words when it comes to business. People are VERY outspoken about EA...but it's the money that talks. The money is nothing but praise and they are lavishing in that praise.

However we have difference views and I understand and respect yours.