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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Hmmm. Easy answer. If enough people complain about something in a game you feel is fine, it has a chance to change into something you don't like. That's how it effects you
    That's a you problem.

    If you love something, other people's opinions shouldn't change that love. Did you fall in love with something because other people told you to or did you find your own reasons?

    Gotta learn to ignore peer pressure eventually/hold your own thoughts without being swayed by others that you don't even know lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    That's a you problem.

    If you love something, other people's opinions shouldn't change that love. Did you fall in love with something because other people told you to or did you find your own reasons?

    Gotta learn to ignore peer pressure eventually/hold your own thoughts without being swayed by others that you don't even know lol.
    Ok so by that logic folks who hate how healers have been gutted shouldn't complain cause that's a "them" issue.

    You see how off that sounds? I'd like to think you just didn't read that correctly
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Ok so by that logic folks who hate how healers have been gutted shouldn't complain cause that's a "them" issue.

    You see how off that sounds? I'd like to think you just didn't read that correctly
    I think my point still stands. If you think healers are fine then continue thinking they're fine. That's your right and you're allowed to enjoy it. The same goes for the people who do not like it. Their opinions, however, do not need to affect yours unless you personally choose to. Which in that case...is a YOU problem for allowing your own opinions to be invalidated by randoms instead of sticking to your own experience. You can easily just keep enjoying healer the exact same way you are now in one corner and let them continue voicing their concerns in the other corner. One does not need to affect the other.

    I don't think you read mine correctly tbh lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    I think my point still stands. If you think healers are fine then continue thinking they're fine. That's your right and you're allowed to enjoy it. The same goes for the people who do not like it. Their opinions, however, do not need to affect yours unless you personally choose to, which in that case...is a YOU problem for allowing your own opinions to be invalidated by randoms. You can easily just keep enjoying healer the exact same way you are now and let them continue voicing their concerns. One does not need to affect the other.

    I don't think you read mine correctly tbh lol.
    I think you misunderstand their original point. In that if something got changed that they liked or enjoyed by the demands of those who didn't they then will now become those who don't like whatever got changed. Like there are some who didn't mind or sort of liked how Bard was back in HW. Or how many liked how SMN played pre EW. There's people who enjoyed SB Ast yet they no longer are able to enjoy these things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    I think you misunderstand their original point. In that if something got changed that they liked or enjoyed by the demands of those who didn't they then will now become those who don't like whatever got changed. Like there are some who didn't mind or sort of liked how Bard was back in HW. Or how many liked how SMN played pre EW. There's people who enjoyed SB Ast yet they no longer are able to enjoy these things.
    I mean, if something they liked got changed into something they didn't then they'd have the same right to voice their concerns/criticisms in the same manner as those who had complaints in the first place (which usually tends to happen when things change). As I said from the start, one side has the same right as the other.

    My ultimate point was that, on an individual level, their opinion shouldn't be swayed by another unless they actually agree with it. But, to put it bluntly, life also isn't fair sometimes and one side won't always get what they want...literally just like people who have been voicing concerns about healers for x amount of years now. That doesn't mean they should just not talk about it anymore though because others want things to stay the same and not change. Change is just a part of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    I mean, if something they liked got changed into something they didn't then they'd have the same right to voice their concerns/criticisms in the same manner as those who had complaints in the first place (which usually tends to happen when things change). As I said from the start, one side has the same right as the other.

    My ultimate point was that, on an individual level, their opinion shouldn't be swayed by another unless they actually agree with it. But, to put it bluntly, life also isn't fair sometimes and one side won't always get what they want...literally just like people who have been voicing concerns about healers for x amount of years now. That doesn't mean they should just not talk about it anymore though because others want things to stay the same and not change. Change is just a part of life.
    Thing is you've moved goalposts with your original point

    "If people wanna complain about the sky being blue instead of yellow, let em. What does someone else's random opinion really do to your day?"

    I provided an in game example of how it effects people per your question. Changes being made leading to destain was then deemed a "you problem". Maybe the whole swaying bit is what you were going for at the start but thats not how it was presented imo. Not the biggest issue ofc


    Also Theo you say that but I expressed that I don't feel like I'm just tapping one button when I'm healing as a Sage as I do many different things. Expressed that healing is indeed fun n I was ragged on n told I had crap standards. Can't remember the thread that was though.
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