DRK vs. WAR: how do they compare?

[Absimiliard]

I'd be real careful about reminding them Dark Mind exists if I were you. You never know when you'll log in to find it greyed out and realize it was given to GNB or WAR.

[RyuDragnier]

I'd be real careful about reminding them Dark Mind exists if I were you. You never know when you'll log in to find it greyed out and realize it was given to GNB or WAR.

Just like what they did to Low Blow, Dark Dance (Anticipation was what it became), and Reprisal...I still haven't forgiven them for gutting us between HW and SB.

[Undeadfire]

Just like what they did to Low Blow, Dark Dance (Anticipation was what it became), and Reprisal...I still haven't forgiven them for gutting us between HW and SB.

Not sure what you were expecting, Drk in HW was horribly broken it needed to be nerfed to the ground. War/Pld had nothing in comparison.

[RyuDragnier]

Not sure what you were expecting, Drk in HW was horribly broken it needed to be nerfed to the ground. War/Pld had nothing in comparison.

It destroyed DRK's entire identity though. 2nd combo was ripped, our DoT was ripped, our mitigations were ripped, we essentially lost our high risk/reward MP management and playstyle...DRK ended up in a worse place, and has only fallen to the bottom of the well. It's been trying to claw its way back ever since.

[Lyth]

????

That's blatantly false. WAR was a mandatory part of every HW group, even when solo tanks were used in Creator speedrun groups. 100% uptime availability on damage down and slashing buffs, highest damage output out of any tank by a sizeable margin, 180 second recast invuln, 120 second recast 30% mitigation when PLD and DRK's were on 180s. Pretty much any semi-decent DRK player was also a PLD player out of necessity in prog, and vice versa. Please stop spreading misinformation.

[Undeadfire]

That's blatantly false. WAR was a mandatory part of every HW group, even when solo tanks were used in Creator speedrun groups. 100% uptime availability on damage down and slashing buffs, highest damage output out of any tank by a sizeable margin, 180 second recast invuln, 120 second recast 30% mitigation when PLD and DRK's were on 180s. Pretty much any semi-decent DRK player was also a PLD player out of necessity in prog, and vice versa. Please stop spreading misinformation.

Didn't that guy from World Prog corrected you before? Stating Drk was hilariously broken.

Or we going back to this argument for the 3rd time? Don't have time with your nonsense.

Edit: You said Pld was solid or better for A7S, however again Drk still defeated.

[Lyth]

There is literally nobody who is going to argue that WAR wasn't a mandatory pick in HW. In fact, I would challenge you to find a single raid fight in HW which the World First clear was done without WAR. The same cannot be said for DRK.

And for your own reference, A1S, A2S, A7S, and A9S were all cleared first using a WAR/PLD comp.

[Undeadfire]

And for your own reference, A1S, A2S, A7S, and A9S were all cleared first using a WAR/PLD comp.

Not finding history for A1S except by fflogs, Mogtalk only goes Creator.

Fflogs says Drk/War earliest A1S kill. Speed?

A2S is Pld/War, it's an add fight, what do you expect? Can it really be counted as a raid boss?

A7S correct even though far easier than A6S. A9S Angered chose Pld yes.

Anyway since this becoming an ego trip, I'll say this.

Drk permanent Int -10%, Reprisal 20s -10% damage (Against boss) with 10s downtime and easy to activate, Blood Price MP feed, free DPS taking damage. Pld: Autos, physical mechanics (which is rare), that's it, that's all it had than self stuff without much benefits. War was DPS only, DPS loss using Paths.

You must be seriously drunk out of your gourd if you don't find this broken, HW Drk had tools no job has ever come close to in history for mitigations. However on topic, I don't know what I can do for you on identities, this would take mass dedication level to return.