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    Undeadfire's Avatar
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    Nova' Dragon
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    Phoenix
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    Paladin Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Axious View Post
    On release? Warrior has been gutted the most and lost almost all identity after 2.0.
    Devs should have kept warrior high hp and self healing with minimal damage mitigation.
    War couldn't even tank in 2.0... All of it's damage reduction cooldowns increased Defence than straight damage % reduction. Holmgang was a meme, I can bind target but I can't move either.
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

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    Axious's Avatar
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    Axious Atheorion
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    Maduin
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Undeadfire View Post
    War couldn't even tank in 2.0... All of it's damage reduction cooldowns increased Defence than straight damage % reduction. Holmgang was a meme, I can bind target but I can't move either.
    Exactly. Completely different identity than paladin.
    Timing your self heals so you don’t die from an auto after a TB. Thrilling rush lol.
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    Argyle Darkheart
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    Behemoth
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Yes, remove Vengeance's thorns.
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    You had to be a masochist to bring 2.0 War in turn 5, it couldn't even survive Death Sentence alone.
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    Gae Bolg Animus 18/04/2014

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    Axious Atheorion
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Undeadfire View Post
    You had to be a masochist to bring 2.0 War in turn 5, it couldn't even survive Death Sentence alone.
    Guilty lol. It was a 50/50 if you would survive the initial hit on death sentence. The worse part was the healing debuff afterwards.
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    Cassius Rex
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    50/50 is being extremely generous. Your odds of surviving the initial hit were practically non-existent (but not 0) on your own, and that's to say nothing of the amount of sheer panic generated in healers the second a WAR took a hard hit from anything. The extra HP and tiny bit of healing WAR used to have in no way offset having to take just about everything straight to the face.

    My static back then wanted to string me up by my ears the one time I even so much as indicated curiosity at the prospect of trying WAR against Twintania.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 10-13-2022 at 03:23 AM.

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    Rigor Mortex
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    50/50 is being extremely generous. Your odds of surviving the initial hit were practically non-existent (but not 0) on your own, and that's to say nothing of the amount of sheer panic generated in healers the second a WAR took a hard hit from anything. The extra HP and tiny bit of healing WAR used to have in no way offset having to take just about everything straight to the face.

    My static back then wanted to string me up by my ears the one time I even so much as indicated curiosity at the prospect of trying WAR against Twintania.
    It’s funny and also sad how bad 2.0 war was in comparison too pld. Like the job did nothing good, dmg was meh and tank potential was also pure garbage. Like they actually had too rewamp everything about the job to make him somewhat decent. Like no other job got this much ability changes and remakes then war.
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    Aya Lovelace
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    Jenova
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    It's funny seeing this thread and the level of "WAR OP" complaints, then comparing the end-game clear rate for hard content, and the most popular tank is DRK, with GNB 2nd, far ahead of WAR & PLD.
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Marilith
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Halfgeeek View Post
    It's funny seeing this thread and the level of "WAR OP" complaints, then comparing the end-game clear rate for hard content, and the most popular tank is DRK, with GNB 2nd, far ahead of WAR & PLD.
    I've been seeing a lot of PLDs since their buff.
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    Mithron Scarlet
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Halfgeeek View Post
    It's funny seeing this thread and the level of "WAR OP" complaints, then comparing the end-game clear rate for hard content, and the most popular tank is DRK, with GNB 2nd, far ahead of WAR & PLD.
    Damage is all that matters when mitigation isn't required to clear.
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