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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    Considering we've always been drip-fed content in this way all these years, no; not really.

    Try thinking about the content we don't have yet that we will have before 7.0, and that might help a bit.

    What's still to come before 7.0:
    • The rest of Island Sanctuary - what we just got is the "introduction phase" - let that sink in for a minute.
    • A new Deep Dungeon
    • The two new dungeon systems
    • Part3 of the current 8-man Raid
    • Parts 2 & 3 of the current 24-man Alliance Raid
    • Lvl 90 Relics + Story quests for said relic
    • the 2nd and 3rd Beast Tribes for this expansion
    • More Trial fights and their savage mounts
    • The meta Trial savage mount quest
    • New dungeons
    And this is probably the short list considering we really don't know everything they plan on patching in before 7.0

    If people want to look back on Endwalker and say they were disappointed, that's fine, but wouldn't it make sense to wait until ALL of Endwalkers' content is patched in before making that judgement? :O
    My response to each of the list

    Meh
    IDK if Deep dungeons was confirmed but if so cool
    One of the things Im looking forward to hope its good
    I mean if your a savage raid or like the story I am the former but I don't get hype for it
    Another Grind that will be hard gated
    Another grind that will be hard gated
    Mount farming is something to do not something I get excited for
    Still haven't been impressed by any of the dungeons

    These are my views on the content not facts so if anyone likes this stuff I don't judge
    As for the expansion its ok still feels like ShB so far but I'll be here waiting to see something more
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    Free the Glam!, Duel Pistols (Gunner)?

  2. #12
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    Samsara Lunalight
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    Ye sadly the game is not active as it rearly gets so fast . Normally it in the X.3/4 when it's get this slow. But this time it's faster and each patch fell So forced beyond what it can give. Like doing older content now is just not a thing .you sit 30+ min in waiting for any old raid or trial even as tank. They need yo do something and fast. I so far stay for the new dungeon in 6.25 (when ever this is) but if this is a 1 time content I drop the game till 7.0 as well.
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  3. #13
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by magitekLuna View Post
    Ye sadly the game is not active as it rearly gets so fast . Normally it in the X.3/4 when it's get this slow. But this time it's faster and each patch fell So forced beyond what it can give. Like doing older content now is just not a thing .you sit 30+ min in waiting for any old raid or trial even as tank. They need yo do something and fast. I so far stay for the new dungeon in 6.25 (when ever this is) but if this is a 1 time content I drop the game till 7.0 as well.
    I noticed this as well the game seems to get tired way faster than it used to, I can’t believe we are already at the state we are in now barely in the .2 patch, this is the kinda boredom I’d expect from a .5 patch
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  4. #14
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    As there was 0 new things. Nothing at all. Yes there new dungeons and raids but all they are at this point are good looking things . They made all content super easy and classes stronger that ever. So you do easy content even faster. Hope they change by 7.0 or they get a hard slap.
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  5. #15
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Not disappointed at all. Some of the best raids and alliance raids they've done, more great-looking dungeons, I can actually manage Island Sanctuary when usually something like that would consume my life and we are getting criterion dungeons soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetness View Post
    I started to zone out once we started playing dressup with the bunnies when the world was supposed to be ending.
    That's classic final fantasy. Throwing in silly things like chocobos and moogles. But remember that we needed to pass the time while the engineers got it working. Such a conundrum can happen in real life if the weather or a defect prevents it from launching and there were concerns about defects in ships in other final fantasy games as well.

    I was fully clocked out during ultima thule segment with the fake sense of loss..
    I'm glad that didn't happen because it's one thing for one or two of them to die but all of them? The thought of that instilled too much despair and that was exactly what they wanted because the story was about despair.

    I un-subscribed back then for almost 2 months and came back for 6.2 island content. I think many people were hoping Islands would be more than just retainer dispatch. Even though yoshi SAID not to hope for much, I'd rather them just...not have done it?
    It was done to expand the variety of content in the game like Ocean Fishing was. They know it won't be for everyone, but when someone is trying to find a type of content in the game that suits them, they might look at raids and dismiss them, they might look at the gold saucer and dismiss it, but eventually they might look at a content type like Ocean Fishing or Island Sanctuary and like it.

    I think it's poorly designed when you need to stack with somebody in the blue circle and there's a green puddle literally right where you need to be.
    That's part of the challenge. There is usually plenty of time to avoid it and then stack with them, or stack with them and then avoid it, depending on how far away the green puddle is. For the bait aoes you just have to bait those away and only move close when it's nearly time to stack. I think the design is intentional but it's not as easy to do consistently as other mechanic because of how it's RNG and sometimes it can just go wrong.
    (6)
    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

  6. #16
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    Mina Shibunuri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Not disappointed at all. Some of the best raids and alliance raids they've done, more great-looking dungeons, I can actually manage Island Sanctuary when usually something like that would consume my life and we are getting criterion dungeons soon.

    That's classic final fantasy. Throwing in silly things like chocobos and moogles. But remember that we needed to pass the time while the engineers got it working. Such a conundrum can happen in real life if the weather or a defect prevents it from launching and there were concerns about defects in ships in other final fantasy games as well.

    I'm glad that didn't happen because it's one thing for one or two of them to die but all of them? The thought of that instilled too much despair and that was exactly what they wanted because the story was about despair.

    It was done to expand the variety of content in the game like Ocean Fishing was. They know it won't be for everyone, but when someone is trying to find a type of content in the game that suits them, they might look at raids and dismiss them, they might look at the gold saucer and dismiss it, but eventually they might look at a content type like Ocean Fishing or Island Sanctuary and like it.

    That's part of the challenge. There is usually plenty of time to avoid it and then stack with them, or stack with them and then avoid it, depending on how far away the green puddle is. For the bait aoes you just have to bait those away and only move close when it's nearly time to stack. I think the design is intentional but it's not as easy to do consistently as other mechanic because of how it's RNG and sometimes it can just go wrong.
    There’s a story thread that can explain why ultima Thule is bad way more than I could. It’s weird because it was essentially a memory lane for people that were still alive. Really they could’ve done anything else with ultima Thule. Hell, thancred could’ve pulled a James Bond sacrificial “last mission style” and actually died.

    island sanctuary SHOULD’VE been for everyone. it’s a vacation island for nald’s sake. It was locked to Endwalker and fun for 5 hrs but then turns into a mobile game where you just dispatch n go.
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    Last edited by Sweetness; 10-04-2022 at 10:41 PM.
    Healers are roles that change their business depending on the content and party members, so I think it can't be helped that they get bored when they have free time.

  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetness View Post
    I may not come back till 7.0
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  8. #18
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    Am happy to say I am enjoying all of it, MSQ was an absolute blast, the next chapters are...intriguing, I am loving the Island ( taking my time and not rushing any of it ), so far Ive enjoyed it all. Ultima Thule was..incredible, the new Omicron questlines look VERY interesting indeed. Loved the Matanga, getting to know the people of Thavnair and Yehdimaud, the dungeons have been fun and varied, Endsinger was just emotive , HUGE fistpump moments at the end of it all.

    I look forward to what is next.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Am happy to say I am enjoying all of it, MSQ was an absolute blast, the next chapters are...intriguing, I am loving the Island ( taking my time and not rushing any of it ), so far Ive enjoyed it all. Ultima Thule was..incredible, the new Omicron questlines look VERY interesting indeed. Loved the Matanga, getting to know the people of Thavnair and Yehdimaud, the dungeons have been fun and varied, Endsinger was just emotive , HUGE fistpump moments at the end of it all.

    I look forward to what is next.
    I have to agree I loved the xpac.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    * long list of stuff
    So it's the usual stuff plus other stuff that might catch on or might burn itself out before the first week is even over. I'm holding out hope for criterion dungeons, but its a coin toss whether it succeeds or not.
    I've noticed "patch apathy" settling in much faster than it used to. You ask yourself "why should I do x now, if next patch I will do Y instead and invalidate previous stuff". The negative side of the patch reliability I guess, specially if you have several expansions on you.

    That's classic final fantasy.
    Not gonna lie, the weird "THIS IS WHAT REAL FINAL FANTASY IS" gaslighting going on in the forums is starting to get on my nerves.
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