Anyone else just feeling really disapointed this expansion?*vent*

[kaynide]

Just my 2 cents, I’ve said it elsewhere, but why not here too

It should have ended with Zodiark as the final boss, or the second to last boss, with Fandaniel as the final last-last Ascian enemy.
No Ultima Thule/Meteon/Bill and Ted nonsense.

I mean, there was a huge lost opportunity to have a “dark side of the moon” zone, or even the moon interior a la FF4.

The “sound” should have been a huge mystery leading up to 7.0 with a very fleshed out NOT THE ASCIANS problem we would have to deal with.

If anything, the themes of this should have been finally being done with the ascians and trying to reconcile with the Garleans and “what comes next”, with some crazy cosmic horror necessitating the unified power of everyone on the planet.

My biggest disappointment was in the mysterious sound (and ultimately the entire plot of the game to now) being the result of..essentially a glitch.. and the forced events to make that whole time travel men-in-black nonsense even happen.

“Oops, made a mistake, guess we gotta sacrifice everybody to protect ourselves instead of building something to destroy it”

instead of

“Ancient evil from beyond has found us, the only thing we can do is try to hide from it to buy time to figure out how to beat it”

They even had the parts there: imagine an entity utterly immune to aether/Magic and extremely powerful towards Aetheric beings. We have the Garleans, a pet project of the Ascians who are essentially low/lacking in aether. Who knows how many eons it took to evolve such a race, but they would have been a perfect technological society to battle such a creature, no?

All that said, taken outside of the plot as a whole I did very much enjoy a lot of parts of EW…but all together…not so much.

Edit: Alternatively, just lift parts of Chrono Trigger entirely. Cosmic horror (Lavos) deep inside the planet. Uh oh, ya'll broke the thing that was keeping it asleep...

[NekoMataMata]

I mean EW is basically just a carbon copy of ShB from a content perspective, just trade the criterion dungeons and deep dungeon for ShB exploration zone and DRS and trade island sanctuary for ishgard restoration and the two are basically exactly the same

Exactly. It's not about the list of content being released, it's about the quality of the content in that list.

Also to add to that issue is the fact that SE is really, really bad about not getting content and updates out on time.

[hagare]

They even had the parts there: imagine an entity utterly immune to aether/Magic and extremely powerful towards Aetheric beings. We have the Garleans, a pet project of the Ascians who are essentially low/lacking in aether. Who knows how many eons it took to evolve such a race, but they would have been a perfect technological society to battle such a creature, no?

huh. I feel like I've read this in a star wars set up.
An enemy that is immune to lightsabers and force powers.

[MagiusNecros]

That's classic final fantasy.

No it ain't lol

[KageTokage]

At this point, I'm honestly just dying to know what the next major story arc for 7.x onward is going to bring and don't have much interest in the void business the MSQ is dealing with presently.

[Supersnow845]

So it's the usual stuff plus other stuff that might catch on or might burn itself out before the first week is even over. I'm holding out hope for criterion dungeons, but its a coin toss whether it succeeds or not.
I've noticed "patch apathy" settling in much faster than it used to. You ask yourself "why should I do x now, if next patch I will do Y instead and invalidate previous stuff". The negative side of the patch reliability I guess, specially if you have several expansions on you.


Not gonna lie, the weird "THIS IS WHAT REAL FINAL FANTASY IS" gaslighting going on in the forums is starting to get on my nerves.

On the subject of the second point honestly that has long been my most hated part of this game, sure it’s a final fantasy game so it’s supposed to have lore tie ins but each final fantasy game is mostly in a self contained world (yes I know things like tactics 12 and 14 are technically in the same world) and it gets really annoying having people do things like defend the changes to SMN and go ackshooly FFXIAJGJSLHK said that SMN is actually this exact class therefore we have to have it this exact way, despite the class having its own lore in this game

I’m happy the devs take inspiration but please let 14 breathe, it’s not a greatest hits compilation of exactly the FF game you played when you were 7

[Vatom]

At this point, I'm honestly just dying to know what the next major story arc for 7.x onward is going to bring and don't have much interest in the void business the MSQ is dealing with presently.

Swear!! Thought I was the only one who thought this

[Pablomaldito]

I think what has hurt this expansion is it’s theme which was depression / despair

This theme is the perfect complement for the housing system.

[MagiusNecros]

Eh right now the story is going nowhere currently and we are in a anime filler stage until 7.0. They rushed the Zodiark arc too soon with the poor pacing issues, job balance problems killing a lot of jobs due to restrictive kits so they have that to deal with and currently you don't have any direction on where the story is gonna go. Main Ascian plot is seemingly over, they killed Garlemald and its Bozja subplot(which was super good btw) and their is a huge reliance on the Azem Azem Azem garbage. Like geez louise give it a rest.

The best parts of the Expansion is really the fights(MSQ/Raid/Trials) and that's about it. Particularly Barbie. They did Scar dirty just like they treated Anima. 2 big bosses worthy of Trial fights. I'm hoping later on there is a big 4 Fiend trial fight after we do whatever with Cagnazzo and Rubicante.

[Jojoya]

I still think Endwalker's problem was having two expansion's worth of story squeezed into a single expansion, with the related game play also getting squeezed down as a result. It should have been one expansion to deal with Garlemald and one expansion to deal with Hydaelyn/Zodiark/The Final Days.

It was still a good expansion but not on the same level as Heavensward and Shadowbringers for me.

Exactly. It's not about the list of content being released, it's about the quality of the content in that list.

Also to add to that issue is the fact that SE is really, really bad about not getting content and updates out on time.

Strange statement to make considering they had been very good about getting content released on time until COVID hit.

As for updates, if you mean patch hot fixes I'd have to hard disagree. They're getting the hot fixes out rapidly as usual. There have only been a couple with noticeable delays, mainly the lottery issues. If you mean job balancing adjustments, no MMO has a particularly great record in that area because they're always afraid if they rush it that they'll create a new imbalance.

At this point, I'm honestly just dying to know what the next major story arc for 7.x onward is going to bring and don't have much interest in the void business the MSQ is dealing with presently.

Somehow I think the next major story arc will be void business spilling over into the Source and remaining shards. I can't see the 13th being "repaired" and some major new and unknown villainous force getting suddenly dumped on our heads to drive the story for next couple of expansions both happening in the time available in 6.3-6.55.