Turn on Demolish for Housing and fix housing please.

[Nyxs]

Yes turn it back on. If you cant play you have other issues that are more important irl.

[Shibi]

This would help a lot, idk, give us a instanced FC workshop in the City-state affiliation of our FC

This is one of those "dollar signs in the eyes" ideas that like onions - once you start the reality hits.

I'm not actually sure it would help a lot. In fact, I don't think it would free up a single house.

On one side the multi-sub-pen owners won't use it as it will be restricted to one set.
On the other side people will soon realise what an absolute pain in the behind ~5-6 months of daily levelling is to get to the point you get a small return on the millions of gil you end up investing (either self gathered and lost opportunity to sell, or bought from Vendors or MB).

Most people give up on gardening. Subs as they stand would drive most people insane - and for those who have that masochistic streak, the chance is quite good right now and has been since June, to just do it.

Now, there was talk of Yoshi allowing subs for all one day, but I am thinking it would be awesome in Tataru's Mammet Sweatshop, tailored to that and made much simpler to grind up.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

As someone who also owns a house I never want them to turn it on again...ever.

Its borderline criminal for them to take away an in game purchase simply because we dont log in as often as THEY say to? ...paying continually isnt even enough? LOL

It is a disgusting/shameful feature that should never have been implemented.
Fix the problem, instanced housing , enough for all. NOTHING less should be acceptable.

Nope here is my reason if you are going to be gone for let's say 3 months to 6 months you don't need a house period. Unless you are playing every single day then you have no reason to have one at all. Let the people who play every day have and those who disappear for months on end can own a apartment or something

[Brightamethyst]

LET'S NOT ACT LIKE CLICKING THE PLACARD WAS ANY BETTER

This.

As bad as the lottery system is, it's still better than placard spamming.

[Jojoya]

As if instanced housing would fix anything while "normal" housing would still exist.

People would still want normal housing anyway, why settle for a worst option ? It wouldnt fix anything.

Open auto demo again, free up the houses that people have abandoned for a long time, and let it roll. Housing needs auto demo to stay viable. If you dont play once per 45 days perhaps you shouldnt have the house in the first place, you dont even play the game, you shouldnt keep a house away from people that are actually playing and are subscribed.

Hard disagree. We've had enough conversations on the subject to know that there's a large number of players, both current house owners and those without houses, that would prefer a house in an instanced area over one in a ghost town, aka the wards.

Keep in mind that if an improved instanced system was added that allowed for houses instead of just apartments, every current house owner that switches to it would open a spot in the wards for those who want a ward house.

As for "normal", instanced housing is normal. That's what the majority of MMOs with housing use. A ward style system is rare. I don't think any other MMO has the ongoing drama over housing like this game does thanks to the choice to use ward housing.

Nope here is my reason if you are going to be gone for let's say 3 months to 6 months you don't need a house period. Unless you are playing every single day then you have no reason to have one at all. Let the people who play every day have and those who disappear for months on end can own a apartment or something

No one needs a house, period. It doesn't matter if they log in daily or one a year. It is optional content and has little bearing on other game content.

What makes you so special that you should be entitled to a house over the player that only plays 3 months a year?

It's a very strange take on your part considering the game's Producer and Director encourages players to take breaks to play other games then come back later to enjoy the content the player wants to enjoy. Then again it's a very strange take on the developer's part to implement a system that prevents all interested players from enjoying it.

This.

As bad as the lottery system is, it's still better than placard spamming.

Neither placard clicking nor the lottery would have been necessary if all housing was fully instanced from the start.

[Stormpeaks]

Keep in mind that if an improved instanced system was added that allowed for houses instead of just apartments, every current house owner that switches to it would open a spot in the wards for those who want a ward house.

So you are expecting people with a fully established house in a normal ward to move to instanced housing (where they would lose everything, including their current decorations and would have to re-do it all over again) and also they would lose their houses in an actual ward, for the sake of moving to instanced housing ?

I'd love to live in whatever world you live in lol

[Shibi]

So you are expecting people with a fully established house in a normal ward to move to instanced housing (where they would lose everything, including their current decorations and would have to re-do it all over again) and also they would lose their houses in an actual ward, for the sake of moving to instanced housing ?

Well, it's a bit moot tbh, as it isn't a thing, and seems to be fallin on deaf ears to boot. However I think you'd likely be surprised how some would jump at it. Maybe to gain more objects in their yards (no PS4 polygon limits holding everyone back), or an instanced large instead of a small, or nicer scenery, or maybe to be absolutely demo-risk free, or if it's done like other games enterable from the menu (like dungeons) from anywhere for 0 gil.

[Silverghost]

I read all 4 pages of replies and thought I'd respond to a couple and add some more thoughts.
* Answering the rhetorical question, yes, I would be in favor of demolish being enabled even if I owned a house.
* I'm in favor of an ongoing upkeep cost like taxation for housing. I think it's a good idea and other MMO's have similar system.
* I understand that some people may server hop for housing but my guess (and I'm not saying I'm right) is that most will not server hop because they want to stay with their friends and FC more than owning a house.
* I'm not saying the Placard spam was better than the lotto system per se. They're both terrible systems. I'm just saying I personally would prefer the Placard system because it would have give me more opportunities to win a house than the lotto system and I'm the type of person that will sit there spam clicking for 14 hours to get something if I want it bad enough.
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* Instanced Housing would be an optional step in the right direction. At least I could use these house only rewards I've gotten for playing the game over the year.
**Personally for me I want to be in a ward, preferably Shirogane where I can walk out to the beach and the ocean, but I'd settle for any ward.
* Yes, you're correct. It is an angry rant post.

*Main point, current housing system sucks, we need more housing added on a regular basis, there should also be more ways to get housing.
** Content drops housing only furniture (of which my retainers are full), why not the keys to a house on a content only ward. Have it be the reward for an ultimate fight or savage fight or if you want to be more accessible a reward for completing MSQ and just make enough wards for everyone to have a house.
** Cash shop is huge in this game. There is so much housing related stuff in cash shop. Why not create cash shop only wards?
** Could create Gillionaire wards where houses cost 3 or 5 times more than they do on normal wards
** Wards where houses cost a specific amount of MGP

[Avidria]

So you are expecting people with a fully established house in a normal ward to move to instanced housing (where they would lose everything, including their current decorations and would have to re-do it all over again) and also they would lose their houses in an actual ward, for the sake of moving to instanced housing ?

I'd love to live in whatever world you live in lol

Frankly I'd love that cause then I could freely unsub and come back whenever without needing to worry about my furniture (some of which is cash shop and/or literally unobtainable now) vanishing into the void because SE doesn't even send you your stuff when your house gets demolished and getting any of it back is on a timer. I'm not even sure if you can get stuff like wallpaper back at all, but it's been a while since I had to worry about that.

My ward has always been empty, think I've seen maybe three neighbors in as many years, and I've been stuck in Goblet (least favorite zone) for as long. I'm not about to server transfer away from friends/FC just to get a better chance at a plot in a zone I actually want to be in, even with world visit being a thing, either. I'm at the point where I've pretty much given up on them changing anything significant about housing in this game though. Only thing keeping me from demolishing my house and giving up on the system entirely is that I'd... Be giving up on the system entirely. And also it'll take aaaages to get rid of all my furniture.

Anyway I'd gladly redecorate from the ground up if it meant not having to care about how garbage the system is anymore.

[Jojoya]

So you are expecting people with a fully established house in a normal ward to move to instanced housing (where they would lose everything, including their current decorations and would have to re-do it all over again) and also they would lose their houses in an actual ward, for the sake of moving to instanced housing ?

I'd love to live in whatever world you live in lol

I wonder what world you live in that you think no one would.

Keep in mind I'm not saying everyone would leave their ward house but certainly there would be gaps appearing where current owners would leave so they would no longer have to worry about Paissa neighbors with a yard full of Namazu effigies or being able to take a break longer than 74 days from the game without fear of losing their house once SE gets around to enabling demolition again.

Instanced house plots would also have the potential to offer more environment options, drawing current owners away from ward houses for environments they prefer more. How many spoke of their disappointment when Ishgard housing was announced and they discovered it would be literally Ishgard housing, not housing in Coerthas or Sea of Clouds? How many have asked for housing in various places of Gyr Abania or Novrandt or Garlemald?

Any one giving up their ward house would be a bonus to someone like you that only wants a ward house. Why argue against it in that case? We know that instanced housing and ward housing is capable of co-existing considering house interiors already are instanced not to mention apartments.