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    There's very little reason for me, if any, to seek out interactions or discussions with those who are fans of Endwalker's story. More often than not it appears that its defenders seek out those of us who took issue with it in attempts to prove themselves the correct and moral ones because they "understood" the story's true message and could somehow sympathize with the likes of Hermes.

    We explain our grievances, get painted as bad guys ourselves or have other strange accusations like some of the ones in this thread tossed our way, and then the current defenders of FFXIV are mystified as to why the playerbase keeps dropping and why they continue to receive pushback from more and more sides.

    I believe that quite a lot of issues could be solved by the following: by setting Yoshi free to work on other games and for Ishikawa to move on to other projects within CBU3. Of the remaining team, future main story writers should be selected from the sort that produced the quality of writing we saw in 6.2's Pandaemonium quests, as well as the more mature storytelling of Ivalice and Bozja's settings.

    Endwalker was an expansion that operated on feels more than substance - I propose that tide be directly turned as soon as possible, lest the game continue to self select for the sort of players that would otherwise be more taken by games outside the fantasy genre than a mainline FF title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    There's very little reason for me, if any, to seek out interactions or discussions with those who are fans of Endwalker's story. More often than not it appears that its defenders seek out those of us who took issue with it in attempts to prove themselves the correct and moral ones because they "understood" the story's true message and could somehow sympathize with the likes of Hermes.

    We explain our grievances, get painted as bad guys ourselves or have other strange accusations like some of the ones in this thread tossed our way, and then the current defenders of FFXIV are mystified as to why the playerbase keeps dropping and why they continue to receive pushback from more and more sides.

    I believe that quite a lot of issues could be solved by the following: by setting Yoshi free to work on other games and for Ishikawa to move on to other projects within CBU3. Of the remaining team, future main story writers should be selected from the sort that produced the quality of writing we saw in 6.2's Pandaemonium quests, as well as the more mature storytelling of Ivalice and Bozja's settings.

    Endwalker was an expansion that operated on feels more than substance - I propose that tide be directly turned as soon as possible, lest the game continue to self select for the sort of players that would otherwise be more taken by games outside the fantasy genre than a mainline FF title.
    That's because your opinion is completely invalidated. You constantly harp about stupid things like the female characters not constantly being damsels in distress and god forbid there's a lite scene where someone is eating a hamburger. Your takes are garbage and its why people don't take you seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    That's because your opinion is completely invalidated. You constantly harp about stupid things like the female characters not constantly being damsels in distress and god forbid there's a light scene where someone is eating a hamburger. Your takes are garbage and its why people don't take you seriously.
    Your complete misinterpretation of my positions is why I usually do not give those on your side a response. Why bother when you're just going to make stuff up to paint me as a bad guy? Enjoy the current state of FFXIV, because there are 2 paths from here.

    1. the game gets back on track, people come back, things improve to fit mine and others' standards when it comes to story and content while those who play regardless of such things will continue doing so.

    or

    2. the game continues this misguided trajectory, the playerbase keeps dropping and the fall of WoW quite literally repeats itself. I get remembered as one of the few people who fought against it, while others are not.
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    This one thinks he'll be remembered.

    couple minutes too slow. oh well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    This one thinks he'll be remembered.

    couple minutes too slow. oh well
    Why are you spamming emojis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Your complete misinterpretation of my positions is why I usually do not give those on your side a response. Why bother when you're just going to make stuff up to paint me as a bad guy? Enjoy the current state of FFXIV, because there are 2 paths from here.

    1. the game gets back on track, people come back, things improve to fit mine and others' standards when it comes to story and content while those who play regardless of such things will continue doing so.

    or

    2. the game continues this misguided trajectory, the playerbase keeps dropping and the fall of WoW quite literally repeats itself. I get remembered as one of the few people who fought against it, while others are not.
    There's literally twice as many people playing this game now than t here was 2 years ago....And no I misinterpreted nothing. You straight up made an entire thread about Zero and how it basically should have been a male character because God forbid a female character has the characteristics she has.
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