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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    There was good discussion on the "themes" (such as they are) here and also here. I don't think it's quite so deep as him sending a message directed at us lest we fall prey to some "doom" as it is the writers playing with themes that they struggled to execute well in tandem with squashing two future intended expansions into one and thus producing a rather muddled hodgepodge that is inconsistent in parts with some of the game's own prior themes.



    Yes, minus keeping the star alive for some 12k years and counting...
    Thanks, I'll have to give those a read.

    Edit: How did my quote make up a line in your post? "Yes, minus keeping the star alive for some 12k years and counting..." where did this even come from? Am I blind?
    Re-Edit: disregard, I didn't refresh my page... I need sleep lmao
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    Last edited by Zebraoracle; 10-02-2022 at 11:04 AM.

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    This one thinks he'll be remembered.

    couple minutes too slow. oh well
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    Thanks, I'll have to give those a read.

    Edit: How did my quote make up a line in your post? "Yes, minus keeping the star alive for some 12k years and counting..." where did this even come from? Am I blind?
    You probably hit quote just as I was done adding something in.

    Anyway, there's countless other threads on this stuff but you may also find this one of particular interest since it touches on a quest chain that sort of expands on the themes they were working with in EW. They're very large threads, so happy reading if you do go through them... unfortunately I didn't make note of any posts specific to the themes as such, but I am sure you will find a few just through skimming.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    Give me that gaelicatnip you've been sniffed on because holy moly, I don't think we're playing same game buddy! It's like a Tumblr/Wattpad version you've played there

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Narcissistic mothers are a thing, after all.
    The only "narcissistic mother" we have in this story is Yotsuyu's mother after all

    And again the Zodiark cults are easily summoned with this kind of thread...
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    - Saying things like "this game is 90% story"
    - Thinking is praise

    Jesus Christ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    The amount of baseless headcanon I encounter in this community, including amongst the very people who sneer "omg stop skipping cutscenes" or who fancy themselves as lore 'hawks', is legend. Comprehension of the story, as written, is really not widespread in this community. Headcanon is the currency of much of its lore commenting.
    You know how, when you invite your friends to watch your favorite movie/tv show and they can't stop fidgeting in their seats and checking their phones and don't calm down until the explosions or the hot girl shows up? I'd bet my inexistent fortune that most "story enjoyers" are kinda like that. The fanaticism is just social media-fueled groupthink and/or streamer worship doing their thing.
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    harassment

    well time to leave this dumpster fire of a topic good luck to all who stay here.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    Give me that gaelicatnip you've been sniffed on because holy moly, I don't think we're playing same game buddy! It's like a Tumblr/Wattpad version you've played there



    The only "narcissistic mother" we have in this story is Yotsuyu's mother after all
    No, on the contrary, I think it is a perfectly valid reading of her personality, her actions and her "love" considering all she did and what her "children" in fact are - the remaining fragments of her people after her genocide of them. These actions may be justified in your mind, but I am simply labelling them what they are and pointing out these kind of claims of "love" are meaningless in isolation and not dissimilar to those a narcissist may utter to those they claim they're benefitting out of "love".
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    Last edited by Lauront; 10-02-2022 at 11:22 AM.
    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cach View Post
    - Saying things like "this game is 90% story"
    - Thinking is praise

    Jesus Christ.



    You know how, when you invite your friends to watch your favorite movie/tv show and they can't stop fidgeting in their seats and checking their phones and don't calm down until the explosions or the hot girl shows up? I'd bet my inexistent fortune that most "story enjoyers" are kinda like that. The fanaticism is just social media-fueled groupthink and/or streamer worship doing their thing.
    and the other group is the ones scoffing at the new Michael Bay movie, but keep paying to watch them with your friends, arguing about how it's awful during the whole movie. That social media-fueled groupthink you're referencing? what do you think you're doing here upvoting those that agree with you, and scoffing at the fidgeters? You're no different lol
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    Completely depends on their behaviour, them not caring about story is ok AS LONG AS:

    -They arent moaning about it existing or that they have to do it and demand the devs cater to them.

    This is an mmoRPG, i know WoW players would rather gut literally everything to turn this game into a boring raidlogging simulator like they did to wow but thankfully Yoshi is not a dev that will pander to a raiding minority at the expense of the majority of players.

    So if they play an ff mmoRPG they should expect heavy story focus, if they dont want story they should just play wow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    This one thinks he'll be remembered.

    couple minutes too slow. oh well
    Why are you spamming emojis?

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