Quote Originally Posted by Alec97 View Post
I never disagreed with you about them needing a sign-off from higher-ups. Everything in business does because you need to fund it.

So I don't know why you are taking this tone. I never said the developers didn't have time. I assume they have community managers who read the forms and Q&A to give feedback, so there is no excuse. We all know they know the issues with the game. Everyone asks how long it will take them to fix, and it is within a reasonable timescale for the people paying for the service.

You have also just admitted you have no idea what you are talking about in this situation, nor can we qualify if you are even telling the truth. You are arguing from authority without being able to prove you are an authority, so it's redundant in this situation. You could easily be a 19 yr old in a university dorm studying game development and arguing with people.
okay so, a bit of history then.

I work as end user support for a software company, because I am customer facing I get the dubious honour of attending Development meetings in case I am aware of issues with the software that require fixing. I said that I have no idea how SE structures their development, I never said I have no idea on how things are likely done. in my case, the product manager, directs the "sprints" in order to achieve release dates with the things that he has decided to implement. in amongst that are bug fixes as well as possible reworking of features that may not be working as customer want. in a LOT of cases.... suggestions end up on a back log because they would either take up too much time to code to work with 9 year old code, or they are considered not worth the time or they are just ridiculous. the devs has very little input aside from how long they GUESS fixing or implementation would take. in 12 years of doing this, I have never heard any dev say "we should implement this...". that usually comes from the product manager or from the sales department, the devs just try and keep up and deliver their part of the code within the schedule in time for releases. do I speak with some authority on the subject in terms of how it likely works, yes, I believe I do. I am not 19 studying game development, couldnt pay me enough to code personally.


do I think the devs deserve some thanks for now having a bug infested game that you can log into daily? I do. they do a job, deal with hundreds of thousands of lines of code that not many would ever want to, or could do

do I think that the aim for those complaining should be higher up the chain, you bet. there is a disconnect between the players and yoshi on what is needed for long standing fixes and whats important to the community. not saying its yoshi, but the devs are essentially just grunts. as is often pointed out.. SE is not an indie company, so somewhere between the devs and the yoshi is where the real issue lays. not the lowest of the low who just take direction

and I am sorry about taking a tone with you, but accusing the devs of waiting is misdirected, and why I felt I had to comment like that. willing to bet the devs never look at the forums, especially the english ones. I am sure they would love to fix all the issues if they could.. and they were told to or allowed to do so. I am sure they take as much pride in their work, and their abilities, as most people.