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    Simping for people you dont know is gross. You pay twice to access the game, that's thanks enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    Simping for people you dont know is gross. You pay twice to access the game, that's thanks enough
    Basically this, especially considering they do the bare minimum for the game to stay afloat so it keeps racking in mog station purchases
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    Simping for people you dont know is gross. You pay twice to access the game, that's thanks enough
    When saying thanks for something you really enjoy (and yes, paid for) is considered 'simping'. If you don't like the game, that's cool, but resorting to insulting people that are grateful for where the game is and where it is going doesn't seem an appropriate reaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    Simping for people you dont know is gross. You pay twice to access the game, that's thanks enough
    Nailed it. The rhetoric in this thread is weird and sometimes feels like an unpaid intern is being tasked with just lurking in here all day.

    Really, all I want is basic communication. I'm not being "spoiled" for expecting basic communication from a game that triple dips with the buy to play fee, the subscription fee, AND the expensive cash shop. I could get into a whole lot of things right now, but I'll just stick to one. The live letters. Why isn't there a live translator for these? You did it once, but then never again. You take my foreign dollars. You announce to me, in English, on your English language site, that you're having a developer sit-down. And then you slap me in the face by telling me that the entire audio/Q&A is going to be JP only. Why even tell me in the first place. Just upload the english powerpoints and be real that you legit don't care about communicating nuanced info to your non JP players. "Oh but the slides are in English" yeah the basic powerpoint one liners are indeed in English. But the part where the lead developer expands on that information is not, and that's the part that people latch onto and quote for weeks when they want to speculate about the future of the game. It's bullshit that we're forced to lean on amateur translations for this, especially with how nuanced and subtle the Japanese language is. "Oh but Japanese listeners complained that it took too long" I don't care. You want to capitalize on a global market and take advantage of global money? Gotta take the good with the bad.

    2 billion dollar company btw, but it's got good Samaritans from reddit doing live translation work for them because they can't take 1% of the profit they made on fat cat costumes to drag in a live translator for a few hours. Got me fucked up. I've seen f2p mmos with better basic communication than this.

    Hell, the game's more profitable than ever but square won't even expand their team so we've got this same small group still handling job balance, content creation, quality assurance, etc. etc. etc. like come on man. Give this game the support it deserves.
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    Last edited by Avoidy; 09-24-2022 at 01:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    You want to capitalize on a global market and take advantage of global money? Gotta take the good with the bad.
    No, they don't, because people like you and Lustre keep paying for subscriptions anyway.
    Your actions speak louder to them than your words, and that's as it should be.
    I don't care why you keep paying, and they may not either.
    They probably pay way more attention to revenue numbers than forum posts.

    I don't judge you for continuing to pay for an experience you appear unhappy with.
    It's fine: keep complaining and keep paying, even if the latter moots the former.
    You do you, and I appreciate your continued contribution to SE's profitability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    No, they don't, because people like you and Lustre keep paying for subscriptions anyway.
    Your actions speak louder to them than your words, and that's as it should be.
    I don't care why you keep paying, and they may not either.
    They probably pay way more attention to revenue numbers than forum posts.

    I don't judge you for continuing to pay for an experience you appear unhappy with.
    It's fine: keep complaining and keep paying, even if the latter moots the former.
    You do you, and I appreciate your continued contribution to SE's profitability.
    This is actually fair. Despite my earlier post, there are actually things I -do- enjoy about the game enough to just ignore smaller things. But the live letters are just an area where I'm consistently let down, and it wouldn't even be hard for them to improve it. They've even shown that they could do it; they simply choose not to, and you're 100% correct in that there's no incentive for them to do better since me, you, and everyone else here continues to throw money at them as long as the rest of the game is good enough.

    The moment a better game comes out though, they're in trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    The moment a better game comes out though, they're in trouble.
    This is true for every product. And smart companies understand this, and adopt a strategy of "cannibalization" --
    using the revenues from their current successful product to develop the product that will replace it.

    Which frankly is what I hope will happen with the FF franchise.
    I don't want them to forever continue to patch and extend their decade-old game engine.
    I don't want them to forever continue writing stories under the constraints of a decade of canon.
    I want them to start from scratch and create a new FF MMOJRPG, a "17" to be to "14" what "14" was to "11."
    And as with 11 and 14, I want them to keep the servers up for 14 when they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    This is true for every product. And smart companies understand this, and adopt a strategy of "cannibalization" --
    using the revenues from their current successful product to develop the product that will replace it.

    Which frankly is what I hope will happen with the FF franchise.
    I don't want them to forever continue to patch and extend their decade-old game engine.
    I don't want them to forever continue writing stories under the constraints of a decade of canon.
    I want them to start from scratch and create a new FF MMOJRPG, a "17" to be to "14" what "14" was to "11."
    And as with 11 and 14, I want them to keep the servers up for 14 when they do.
    I'm hoping this is the case, but watching their company squander funds on failed Marvel spinoffs and talk of NFTs makes me wonder. Legit sometimes feels like the XIV devteam is anchored to Square Enix's poor financial decisions, but whatever. I'm out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    Simping for people you dont know is gross. You pay twice to access the game, that's thanks enough
    Don't know how you manage to confuse or synonymize (for that matter) thanking the developers verbally, or in a written form as an expression of gratitude with 'simping' for them. But well done on convincing yourself, I guess.
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