The Devs need a much needed thanks!

[SilverObi]

I mean... they don't need your thanks, you pay them money. But by the same token they don't care about you thinking they don't deserve thanks...you pay them money.

[Renalt]

I mean... they don't need your thanks, you pay them money. But by the same token they don't care about you thinking they don't deserve thanks...you pay them money.

I keep seeing that over and over. It's not right.

[Supersnow845]

I keep seeing that over and over. It's not right.

Why, they aren’t entitled to me praising them when they do anything (especially when it’s partially fixing the mistake they made in a way nobody wanted), I pay them money and receive a service, when something is done that isn’t bad enough to make me cancel the service but I’m displeased I complain, I would say this is business 101 but this is more like fisher and paykel my first business lesson

[Renalt]

Here's one issue I have. It's a big one and it's kinda gonna be a long post. I'll see if I can TL;DR the end.

People LOVE to complain but hate to praise. This is fact. You see it everywhere and it's SO common you will never even take notice of it. Want proof? Look at any review of any game, restaurant, retail store, etc...and see how many times a review is in short "I go here all the time and things have been fine and I like the place and blah blah blah but I had one bad experience because of reasons. 1 star.

It happens...a LOT. Question for people...be honest. How many times have you had a pretty good experience and left a review? How many times have you had a bad experience and left a review? That said...I've seen it happen so many times where people will literally only review a place if they have that one bad experience. COuld have 100s of good experience but hey...they got my money right? That's all the thanks they need. Hell I've seen MANY people on the forums say "My thanks is the fact I'm subbed". Here's the problem...let me draw up a scenario.

You work in retail. You are doing your very best and give 100% maximum effort and things are great. Did they give you a good review? No. The money spent is thanks. That goes to the company and not the workers.

Now...same scenario. You work your ass off. Maximum effort. They complain and whine they didn't get things THEIR way. They leave a negative review. Guess what the boss sees? That negative review. You're fired. Should have done better.

But hey...when you do good they support by paying money right? The boss does not see that. That's suppose to happen. They don't see you working your ass off.

TL;DR

Boss man doesn't see you doing a good job just cause people spend money at the store. That is to be expected. When people start whining though...they are SO QUICK to voice their complaints...and boss man sees that and thinks you are terrible.

Why, they aren’t entitled to me praising them when they do anything (especially when it’s partially fixing the mistake they made in a way nobody wanted), I pay them money and receive a service, when something is done that isn’t bad enough to make me cancel the service but I’m displeased I complain, I would say this is business 101 but this is more like fisher and paykel my first business lesson

Not typing it again but it was probably buried. The quote. That's why.

[Supersnow845]

Not typing it again but it was probably buried. The quote. That's why.

Your not very apt analogy of retail (which falls pretty flat on its own because yoshi is a square executive and a lot of the devs are higher ranking than “front line grunt”) doesn’t even apply here because this post is entirely reactionary to extremely valid complaints about the balancing problems of the game recently, as much as complaints in retail suck you are getting paid a wage and that is your “reward” for meeting the companies expectations on a regular basis, it makes you feel good but you aren’t entitled to constant customer praise because you are doing what you signed up to do

Responding to complaints about P8 balancing with “yeah but fell court of troia is so pretty” more or less is just diverting a legit problem people are having, the devs will get praise from the players when they do something worth praising and right now 6.2 hasn’t shown much of it

[AwesomeJr44]

*insert quote from earlier here*

Want me to praise your work? Excel. Go above and beyond. EARN my praise. I will not praise you or the SE devs for 'good enough' or 'what you're supposed to do'. Doing the bare minimum is your job. You get paid to do that. If you want praise, you need to earn it. However, if you give me a subpar product, I will be complaining.

Exactly.

Things I praise the devs for:
- 1.0 -> ARR
- Listening to fans and adding content in
- Making the game's experience not be any more of a hassle than it has to be (at least in comparison to when I started, thank god sprouts don't have to go through half of what I did)
- Understand their game is old and has outdated designs and try to improve on them
- Being somewhat creative on their job designs
- Crafting and Gathering not making me want to quit the game
- Honestly entertaining story with fun Final Fantasy-style ham and cringe that contrasts the awkwardness old MMOs have
- Hrothgars!
- Being able to play with PS4 people (I wouldn't have met my friends otherwise, and I love them to bits)
- All of Shadowbringers
- Soken
- Housing and other similarly chill content
and others!

Things I do not praise the devs for:
- Being complacent
- Ignoring fan feedback
- Making stupid decisions that benefit absolutely no one! (also: not thinking twice before going through with their designs)
- Quality Assurance going down the drain
- Their treatment of Hrothgars after release
- Job design being utter chaos
- Stupid answers (ok assuming I can forgive them saying Hrothgar ears were hard, the hell kind of answer is 'go play ultimate'????)
- Cringe in the MSQ. But like, the BAD cringe. Loporrits.
- Lack of transparency
and others around the same vein.

See this guy right here? Be this guy. Have standards. Give praise where its due and scorn when its due.