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    SilverObi's Avatar
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    Kissa Kotele
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    It got crazy personal in here real fast. Are you all okay?
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    Fhaerron Kobayashi
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    Thanks.


    Now let me go back to complaining ^^
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Maya Jcb
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    Personally I am most grateful for the graphics overhaul. It’s a huge undertaking that I’ve been wanting to see for a long time.
    And it still wont come anywhere close to what modders have been doing for years.
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    And it still wont come anywhere close to what modders have been doing for years.
    It's nice for modders to have that special advantage of not answering to any higher ups or work on other priorities within their workspace to quickly answer to the whims and demands of their own playerbase.

    ”Why can't the devs just make these applications now?”
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    And it still wont come anywhere close to what modders have been doing for years.
    Maybe it's just me but the lighting overhaul they showed off for 7.0 looked way better than the overly bloomy and glossy lighting modders favor so much.
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    Erin Ellza
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    Casual pleb here, I don't play savage. XIV still gets about 20 times more content in 1 big update than my ex MMO GW2 which makes me love this game so I do appreciate the devs. If this makes me a white knight, then I will gladly embrace this title.
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    Professional lurker.

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    Miyu Bubbles
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    I personally find it weird to thank a company or a group of workers for a paid product made for the masses. They may deserve thanks when they cater to what the community is requesting them to do, and even then, not always.

    It's very different from thanking a worker that is interacting directly with you and providing a service tailored for you/your needs (like waiters, doctors, cashiers, etc)
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Quote Originally Posted by ameliaw View Post
    I personally find it weird to thank a company or a group of workers for a paid product made for the masses. They may deserve thanks when they cater to what the community is requesting them to do, and even then, not always.

    It's very different from thanking a worker that is interacting directly with you and providing a service tailored for you/your needs (like waiters, doctors, cashiers, etc)
    Companies are faceless so it's easier to praise them, doubly so when said company is virtue signaling. A single person rarely is able to change the direction a company is going unless they have a lot of pull in the company (and those types rare put empathy over profit) so it's easier to pat a nameless company on the back similar to how sports fans pat a team on the back but as soon as a person leaves "our" team for "their" team then they are no longer worthy of empathy. Sorry Sportsguy™, you only permanently destroyed your knees for millions of dollars. :/
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    Jojoya Joya
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    In this thread, we get to meet some of the people who have caused the service industries to be in dire need of employees the last couple of years. They demand perfection while not showing appreciation for another's effort.

    Saying "thank you" isn't praise. It is appreciation for someone else's effort to provide something the recipient cannot or will not do for themselves at that time, regardless of any imperfections in the product or service provided. Just because it's someone's job doesn't mean they don't deserve thanks. Where would you be if they weren't doing that job, nor was anyone else?

    It doesn't negate the need for constructive feedback on where the product/service needs more work or repair, and where the product/service meets or exceeds expectations.

    Stop and think about all the things you have in your life where you never thanked all those responsible for making them possible.

    Now remove all those things. What do you have left? Probably very little.

    To be fair, the same applies to you and your efforts. If you're never thanked at your job despite performing it to reasonable standards, there's a problem. Not trying to say that the air should be filled with "thank you" to the point they seem insincere but it should be getting said at least occasionally. Expressed appreciation boosts job performance and can help cut down on employee turnover.

    Quote Originally Posted by ameliaw View Post
    I personally find it weird to thank a company or a group of workers for a paid product made for the masses. They may deserve thanks when they cater to what the community is requesting them to do, and even then, not always.

    It's very different from thanking a worker that is interacting directly with you and providing a service tailored for you/your needs (like waiters, doctors, cashiers, etc)
    And yet some of those workers in the customer-facing positions would not be able to do their work without those behind the scenes doing their own jobs.

    The waiter frequently goes unappreciated when the chefs and dishwashers aren't doing their jobs.

    Doctors go unappreciated if their nurses and administrative staff aren't keeping things organized and making certain test results are coming back.

    Cashiers are unappreciated if the stockers aren't getting prices labeled correctly or the equipment malfunctions.

    MMORPGs are never the effort of a single customer facing person. They are the result of a team effort and the entire team desires the thanks. Money isn't a thank you, unless you're leaving it as a tip above and beyond the product/service cost. Money is the middleman that allows your services/products that others want to be translated into a way you can get services/products you want from a third party.

    ******

    Thank you to the FFXIV development team, Community teams and everyone else whose effort go into making this game.

    The game may have some problems (what game doesn't?) but overall it's been a very enjoyable journey and I've been glad to have been playing for 7 years, with the game being my primary game home for the last 5.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 09-19-2022 at 12:36 AM.

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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    And yet some of those workers in the customer-facing positions would not be able to do their work without those behind the scenes doing their own jobs.

    The waiter frequently goes unappreciated when the chefs and dishwashers aren't doing their jobs.

    Doctors go unappreciated if their nurses and administrative staff aren't keeping things organized and making certain test results are coming back.

    Cashiers are unappreciated if the stockers aren't getting prices labeled correctly or the equipment malfunctions.
    Funny how a lot of those issues tend to be caused by bad management or those above the immediate management saddles those below them with unrealistic goals that end up eroding the customer's experience because keeping a job is more important than the customer's satisfaction, lol.
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