Patch 6.21 Notes

[RyuDragnier]

This is a crap take. I'd rather them admit that they just really screwed up in job balancing and this is the reason for the discrepancy. Not because 'oh lulz our team just did better than expected so we got it wrong. '

Gimme a break SE, your crap balancing of classes is the reason for it, and nothing else.

Apology not accepted.

They COULD be right, since we don't know their job makeup for the fight, nor whether they did it at minimum ilvl or not. I'd prefer if they'd test at minimum ilvl with every job makeup, but that may take too long (and require them to actually play jobs we know they don't play, like DRK or SCH).

[ty_taurus]

They COULD be right, since we don't know their job makeup for the fight, nor whether they did it at minimum ilvl or not. I'd prefer if they'd test at minimum ilvl with every job makeup, but that may take too long (and require them to actually play jobs we know they don't play, like DRK or SCH).

I'm not sure every job makeup would be necessary but they should test it with the projected lowest damage composition respective to sub roles, including a double melee, double caster, and double physical ranged comp respectively, and possibly cross references that with the projected highest damage comp. It should be doable even with double physical ranged without needing to rely on above average crit luck.

[ForteNightshade]

They COULD be right, since we don't know their job makeup for the fight, nor whether they did it at minimum ilvl or not. I'd prefer if they'd test at minimum ilvl with every job makeup, but that may take too long (and require them to actually play jobs we know they don't play, like DRK or SCH).

It's incredibly unlikely though because we've seen highly skilled players struggling with the DPS check of P8 due to the job they play. What I suspect is they test fights at max ilvl and rescale accordingly. Hence why they didn't notice how significant the job balance discrepancy was.

The Doorboss wouldn't be an issue whatsoever if nearly half the jobs weren't in a terrible state right now.

Why Marauder / Warrior getting even stronger? Like even now in 6.2 each dungeon/trial is like 5bmin faster as we melting bosses. Why make it even faster. At this rate by 7.0 this be an auto play game.

Because job balance doesn't matter in dungeons where we're hilariously overgearing them even at release? Meanwhile, in raid content, Warrior was nearly 500 DPS behind Dark Knight and Gunbreaker. Literally nothing it offers makes up for such a massive difference. No, not even Holmgang.