Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 24
  1. #1
    Player
    Deceptus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    The Goblet - 16th Ward, Plot 55
    Posts
    4,418
    Character
    Deceptus Keelon
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90

    Another example of blatant Double Standard when it comes to balance

    Emphasis mine

    Source

    Quote Originally Posted by FFXIV Job Team
    Using Abyssos: The Eighth Circle (Savage) as an example, there are prolonged periods where the enemy cannot be attacked, as well as mechanics that grant increased damage to players, further emphasizing the value of burst damage. In such situations, the job's incompatibility with the duty becomes more readily apparent.

    To substantively resolve these issues, we believe a full re-evaluation of actions is required. That said, waiting for such an evaluation would mean prolonging the unfavorable state of paladin. For this reason, we have elected to increase the potency of their actions in Patch 6.21.

    As more significant adjustments to action mechanics will require more time, such changes will be implemented from Patch 6.3 onward. For now, we have elected to adjust actions that will improve the job's burst damage.
    Talk about a double standard. AST and DRG were promised a rework but got pushed to 7.0 because "it would be too hard".

    Quote Originally Posted by Live letter LXXI
    In previous Letter LIVEs, we mentioned that dragoon and astrologian would receive extensive adjustments in Patch 6.2; however, we’ll be postponing these adjustments based on the feedback we’ve received since Patch 6.1. Making extensive adjustments to a job on a fundamental level would involve numerous changes. The sheer number of changes would make it difficult to fully explain our intentions for each one, so we believe we should wait for an expansion release to make adjustments of that scale. With that said, rest assured we’ll continue to make minor adjustments.
    PLD has issues with 1 week of savage and get a promised rework in the next major patch (a few months.)

    From the tank forums:

    Quote Originally Posted by wyznwyb View Post
    there is not a single thing that was said in those two paragraphs that doesn't also apply to black mage, something good black mages will readily point out after last night..
    (9)
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  2. #2
    Player
    DixieBellOCE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2022
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    1,132
    Character
    Dixie Bell
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Meanwhile, SCH and AST just dominating the healer category.
    (3)

  3. #3
    Player
    Reimmi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Posts
    1,287
    Character
    Nia Niyah
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    I will say without a doubt that PLD has many more issues in its design than dragoon or ast, so i don't see the problem here
    There's many things to complain about here, but this ain't one of em. I loathe the upcoming drg rework myself, considering what happened to summoner
    (3)

  4. #4
    Player
    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2020
    Posts
    1,419
    Character
    Alinne Seamont
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    Meanwhile, SCH and AST just dominating the healer category.
    oh nevermind
    (1)

  5. #5
    Player
    Nezerius's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,712
    Character
    Rintha Elenah
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 90
    To me, OP's two quotes just sound like PLD will be receiving significant adjustments, while AST/DRG will receive a possible SMN-like job redesign. In which case there's no blatant Double Standard.
    But I guess this is all up to one's interpretation of both quotes.

    Does make me worried for 7.0 DRG though, considering how SMN turned out.
    (12)

  6. #6
    Player
    Jojoya's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2018
    Posts
    9,091
    Character
    Jojoya Joya
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    It says adjustments. It does not say full rework.

    Could be they're going to change just a couple of actions with most of PLD still playing the same.

    AST and DRG are going to be getting actual reworks, though. Do you really want them to rush reworks with half-formed ideas of how to fix the major complaints just for AST to end up worse for the rest of the expansion?

    Wait until 6.3. If PLD is given an actual rework instead of just a few action changes, complain then.

    I'm waiting for the AST rework myself. It's a job I want to be able to enjoy but can't. But I'm also willing to wait for them to do a proper job on it instead of pushing out something that will end up feeling just as bad as it currently does.
    (6)

  7. #7
    Player
    Lunalepsy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    1,140
    Character
    Yxiah Eruyt
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Emphasis mine

    Source



    Talk about a double standard. AST and DRG were promised a rework but got pushed to 7.0 because "it would be too hard".



    PLD has issues with 1 week of savage and get a promised rework in the next major patch (a few months.)

    From the tank forums:
    Balance is bad, but uniqueness is fantastic. Say no to balancing!
    (7)

  8. #8
    Player
    Azuri's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2021
    Posts
    769
    Character
    Azuri Aeru
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Not sure how is this a negative. DRG/AST might still have a chance at well thought out reworks. PLD is just going to WAR III or GNB II. Don't need much dev time for that.
    (3)

  9. #9
    Player
    Enjuden's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    361
    Character
    Enju Abbagliato
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    You mean people were incredibly pissed off at Samurai changes, so you're mad that the same thing didn't happen to Dragoon/AST instead of SE taking a step back and thinking 'hey, maybe we messed up'? Or do you want this balance team to screw up your job because they obviously don't play it?

    Do you pay attention?
    (7)

  10. #10
    Player
    AmiableApkallu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2021
    Posts
    1,040
    Character
    Tatanpa Nononpa
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    At the moment, it sounds like PLD is suffering from not fitting into the two minute burst meta more than AST and DRG are suffering from... well, I'm not sure how they're suffering, exactly. So, it makes sense to me that PLD would get "fixes" before AST and DRG, especially if the alternative is PLD getting locked-out for the remainder of 6.x.
    (3)

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast