Reaper needs additional buffs.

[FireMage]

A compromise, then. Give every one of those jobs a regen that can be wasted as overheal, and nerf their dps down to RPR's level. We just want a level playing field where individual player skill is the main determinant of performance, and not their preferred job aesthetic.

It already is the main determinant for one. And uh, hate to tell you but with how on demand it and it and how much it can actually heal? No. RPR is fine where it is, and should be in pace with RDM

[Lyth]

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I argue that all dps jobs, RPR and RDM included, should be on a completely level playing field as far as rdps is concerned. Personal skill should dictate performance, not the job that you pick. If you're completely secure in your ability to perform and compete, then you would want the same.

I know that players go on about caster raises, but there's surely other ways to provide other roles with support actions that can make them feel equally valued without placing casters at a dps disadvantage.

[ChaozK]

I argue that all dps jobs, RPR and RDM included, should be on a completely level playing field as far as rdps is concerned. Personal skill should dictate performance, not the job that you pick. If you're completely secure in your ability to perform and compete, then you would want the same.

You cant have raid dps be balanced if utility isnt balanced. It just doesnt work like that.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

You cant have raid dps be balanced if utility isnt balanced. It just doesnt work like that.

And yet monk has a better raid buff and mantra is simply better than arcane crest.

The amount of people trying to cling to the idea that arcane crest is good enough reason for reaper the "selfish" dps to be dead last is kinda funny.

I was healer main for years, you think a 50 potency hot is more useful to me rather than the flat healing buff I can get from mantra instead? Any raidwide aoe I already have mits and healing planned for, arcane crest is totally irrelevant. It's pointless overheal. Mantra has much more impact to me. Esp on a healer check. Even then I could have no monk or reaper and I will heal just fine without any support from either of them. No shortage of players who simply ignore the utility they have.

If they made raids where the support was actually relevant to me as a healer they would suddenly find themselves with jobs being rejected due to being unable to meet certain heal/mit checks. The content can be cleared with any comp so what if I have a blm sam mch and drg? Myself and co healer can handle any damage that is incoming. The support utility the jobs bring is mostly flavour and jobs should not be heavily punished for having it.

And again, arcane crest is not some godly utility. It is a personal shield that so happens to have a small hot. Really don't get peoples desire to keep reaper lower, I've seen it blocked on some p8s pfs. It is unacceptable.

People had the expectation of a selfish dps set by yoshi p and atm that expectation is not being met. The job needs a buff to be closer to samurai as the 'selfish' role it should be in. They also need to fix whatever nonsense is going on with the caster dps and mch. BLM should be way up by samurai too. SMN and RDM should not be too far behind the lowest melee either.

[Lisonna]

I don't know if it's been said yet, but I think this could be really easy to justify as well with the MSQ. I think the new MSQ character could teach RPR a thing or two. Even if it isn't gameplay changing, I would hope for a brief RPR questline and lore explanation, a couple potency buffs, and maybe a visual update. Perhaps they could teach our Avatar a couple of tricks . It would be a really nice touch, hits lore points, and improves RPR's position in dps.

[ChaozK]

And yet monk has a better raid buff and mantra is simply better than arcane crest.

The amount of people trying to cling to the idea that arcane crest is good enough reason for reaper the "selfish" dps to be dead last is kinda funny.

Reaper is neither selfish nor is it dead last. Selfish means it gets to have high personal dps not rdps, which its currently at spot 3.
The only thing one can argue is that RPR should be dealing more personal dmg than MNK so it could switch to 2nd highest.

Arcane crest is also infinitely better than Mantra.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Arcane crest is also infinitely better than Mantra.

Lmao no

For party utility the mantra can apply to every heal I throw within its duration, 15 seconds. So if for some reason I needed to throw out 5 gcd heals I get 10% extra potency on every single one. My astro under lightspeed can get 6 gcd heals out in this time. This in a healer check where there are party wide multi hits that chunk for good dmg is FAR more useful than arcane crest. 10% extra potency on 5-6 gcd heals applying to 8 people each time. As a healer I don't give a hoot about an arcane crest ticking. After a raidwide if I know there is no further dmg coming I let the party tick up to full naturally. I do not need some crappy 50 pot hot. And if there IS another raidwide coming the hot will not be the deciding factor in healing it.

Also you can say what you want, yoshi P himself said the job is a selfish type dps. And this is further seen in the weaker raid buff of 3%, that is used to give the reaper a big hitting ability. And the weaker utility that is the self shield and tiny hot. Furthermore, the selfish dps samurai is the 2nd highest rdps job ))

Anyway yourself and others repeating the same nonsense in this thread have no clue. I would say to remove yourselves but that's wishful thinking. Here's to hoping the devs have a better clue than you ^^

[ChaozK]

Lmao no

For party utility the mantra can apply to every heal I throw within its duration, 15 seconds. So if for some reason I needed to throw out 5 gcd heals I get 10% extra potency on every single one. My astro under lightspeed can get 6 gcd heals out in this time. This in a healer check where there are party wide multi hits that chunk for good dmg is FAR more useful than arcane crest. 10% extra potency on 5-6 gcd heals applying to 8 people each time. As a healer I don't give a hoot about an arcane crest ticking. After a raidwide if I know there is no further dmg coming I let the party tick up to full naturally. I do not need some crappy 50 pot hot. And if there IS another raidwide coming the hot will not be the deciding factor in healing it.

Also you can say what you want, yoshi P himself said the job is a selfish type dps. And this is further seen in the weaker raid buff of 3%, that is used to give the reaper a big hitting ability. And the weaker utility that is the self shield and tiny hot. Furthermore, the selfish dps samurai is the 2nd highest rdps job ))

Anyway yourself and others repeating the same nonsense in this thread have no clue. I would say to remove yourselves but that's wishful thinking. Here's to hoping the devs have a better clue than you ^^

You say you played healer but if you did you would know that no healer in its right mind would realistically ever cast 6 GCD heals back to back outside of fringe situations - they try to minimize their healing to as little as possible. Arcane crest ticks overall for 150 pot AOE whith no healer intervention needed what so ever. A 10% buff on 300 pot AOE heal from a healer is a 30 pot increase AOE.

Now you factor in that Mantra has a 90s CD vs arcane crests 30s so it can be used 3 times as much and its not even close.

It provides higher numbers, is more flexible and can be used multiple times as often. Its way better in almost every way.

As for selfish dps, you might want it to be a slefish dps but the fact is it provides a raidbuff so it just isnt and 3rd spot personal dps is what it deserved to be. It just isnt selfish in the same way a SAM is.