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    ..and how do they get from the First to the Source?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    ..and how do they get from the First to the Source?
    The plot of 6.1 and .2. We have a safe way to travel to shards now. Probably put the Atomos in the Crystal Tower
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    It's specifically just the void we have an easy method of accessing as the boundary between it and the Source/shards is considerably thinner then that of the other shards for some unknown reason.

    You'd need find a planar fissure connected to one of the other shards and attach an Atomos to it, which still leaves the thorny prospect of having to traverse the void to get anywhere.
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    You'd need find a planar fissure connected to one of the other shards and attach an Atomos to it,
    IF one can ever be found.
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    Ryne and Gia are children is their point. Anyways just because I loved Heavensward doesn't mean I want to go back there and tread the same ground just with a different coat of paint. Or that I feel that the game is in a dire need to have Heavensward 2: Time to Bleep Dragons... in bed. Just with more of a gray monotone color scale while I'm forced to slowly crawl over a bed of broken glass during a hurricane. And if we somehow got a 2nd dose of that it doesn't automatically make it good either.
    To be fair I dont beleive they are asking for a HW 2, but more so they want the same Drab, and the more serious tone of HW.

    But I also agree, just because HW was really good, and just because I LOVED ShB, doesnt mean I want the same thing over and Over.
    I can appreciate Mass Effect and other games in how they tell their stories and develop their characters. But that doesnt mean I want to/Need to see that exact same writing and story telling in every game I play.
    That gets boring, and Id turn into a typical Movie Critic or Art Teacher, where NOTHING is ever good enough...unless it follows One Singular line of thinking.
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  6. #136
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    You'd need find a planar fissure connected to one of the other shards and attach an Atomos to it.
    That's easy enough there would most definably be one in The Syrcus Trench. Its the place where the G'raha pulled us through initially so I don't see why I would just all up and disappear. They never say that it's closed and we still use it to travel to and from the first.
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  7. #137
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    I HATE POST LIMITS.
    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
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    For 9, Vivi dies just before the game ends. The last few cutscenes show you his children show up in Alexandria and telling you that Vivi died during the time skip. FF10 Tidus... "dies", refer to TaleraRistain's post a bit before this, but Yuna brings him back.

    As for Shadow, sure, but he still counts, you can just avoid it. It's permanent if you don't, however. And I fail to see your point about 15... isn't the whole point that the Scions did not die at Ultima Thule? Deaths at the last portion of the game do not deride the fact that the death happened. Otherwise the same will be said for Type-0, as technically the whole roster dies only at "the end".

    And I'm not trying to paint FF14 as a happy-go-lucky-go story o,o Sis, I wrote this xD

    No, it's perfectly fine for the game to have serious moments, just as much as it's perfectly fine for it to have gag and gratuitous comedy. After all, even older scenes are hilarious, and adding context back to this video doesn't make it any less funny. The real issue I have with it is that it needs to have a natural narrative cadence.

    The point of my reply was to really show people what TaleraRistain was talking about, as I HAVE played every one of those games. Including 5 :P oops.

    Yeah, the game isn't Dark Souls... but it isn't Kingdom Hearts either. If we're going to have meaningful deaths and sacrifices from the main roster, they shouldn't be fake-out deaths. It's not edgy to have them. It's just normal. Goofy Boulder moments aren't really cool either.

    Meaningful stuff DOES happen to characters who survive, it's literally their character development, is it not?

    Thancred's whole deal with Minfilia and acceptance of what happened, embracing his guardian figure.
    Urianger stops being so secretive and uses his experience as "the outcast" to give us different perspectives.
    Y'shtola slowly opened herself up and showed far more emotions. Runar is the only other character that isn't a Scion or her sister to become a source of motivation to her.
    Same for G'raha. He out of all the Scions endured 100 years of psychological, emotional and physical torment. All under one singular hope. That you'd be able to come and help and steer the future.

    But fake-out deaths? That's not good writing. And the issue with Krile's suffering at the hands of Zenos is that the only time you actually are given a glimpse of what could have happened to her had we not saved her is if you read up on the entries about Dabog in Bozja. That is where the true gravity of her fate lies. You otherwise only know it's scary, it doesn't go over the actual consequences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Why? With what justification?



    ..are on the First and cannot travel beyond the Rift.

    Dont even mention the soul crystals, you know what Beq Lugg had to say when we tried it ( "You did WHAT?????" ), it is FAR too dangerous

    Gaius is in Terncliffe and has his hands full, he was offered the chance but his duty said no stay, he is needed where he is now. Too many ghosts, too many deaths, his first and only duty now is to Garlemald and to the children he raised. he and the Scions have far too much between them now.

    Erenville is a Gleaner, has his own life, is not an adventurer and has no reason to drop it all and join the Scions, his life and duties are to Sharlayan and the Gleaners..he has the life he wants.
    They could travel with an Atomos, just like we did.
    Show me in which Quest Gaius got an offer to join us?
    And Garlemald is gone, there is no Duty left.
    He has 1 child, all others died.
    Erenville travels across all of Hydaelyn as a Gleaner, he would be perfect, if someone knows the World, then for sure him.
    You write like you are in panic that one of them would join us, like you would know them personaly.
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    Someone call the Forum Police! Because I wrote passive aggressively that DT looks not good. Oh how right I was!

  9. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    though I was never a fan of the yellow color scheme chosen for what are clearly Devout-inspired robes which have traditionally been shown as white, pink, and red
    At least get your facts right about Krile's original outfit in FF5 as a white mage, it was always yellow-tinted:

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    Last edited by Rubicon; 09-10-2022 at 02:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd View Post
    The plot of 6.1 and .2. We have a safe way to travel to shards now. Probably put the Atomos in the Crystal Tower
    No, we have a safe way to travel to the Thirteenth. Travel between the Thirteenth and the Source has always been easier then with any other shard. Just because an Atomos could enlarge a void portal in this instance doesn’t automatically mean it will work for the First.
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