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  1. #11
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    Pural Zural
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    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    So yeah people going "OMG ISLAND LOCKED BEHIND MSQ THAT WILL TAKE FOREVER FOR ALTS"

    This guy just shuts them up.
    The true endgame is Limsa flexing instead of working on alts

    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    While I personally don’t care if IS is unlocked only at lvl 90 (I do have it unlocked on my main but not in a rush to get there on other toons), speed running and skipping cutscenes, not doing any type of side content (not even glamours!) and having to come back in areas to unlock currents at a later time is not everyone’s cup of tea. Also, the first run was still 57 hours which is more or less the amount of time I play per month.

    I am doing the very opposite as op on a toon, taking the time to do a lot of side content on an alt. It is very slow but I find it enjoyable and relaxing and I am picking up new things in the story I didn’t pay attention to the first time around.

    That being said, if I were going to measure the time it takes to do a speedrun, I’d use trusts/duty support whenever available as queue times can very greatly, not just depending on role but on the server you’re on and on times at which you play.
    I respect your choice regarding alts =) Everyone is different. From my experience with speedrunning, I've found that playing a healing job will always be a the most fastest/optimal choice seeing as how the queues are usually instant as-is and this especially matters when it comes to trials. In addition, players are more capable of pulling more trash mobs which leads to a quicker time than using the trust/duty support system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syalyx View Post
    The true endgame is Limsa flexing instead of working on alts



    I respect your choice regarding alts =) Everyone is different. From my experience with speedrunning, I've found that playing a healing job will always be a the most fastest/optimal choice seeing as how the queues are usually instant as-is and this especially matters when it comes to trials. In addition, players are more capable of pulling more trash mobs which leads to a quicker time than using the trust/duty support system.
    I respect your choice too (edited my original post in that regard as I was mostly answering to the other person) and while not something I will attempt, I find it interesting.

    Btw, for trusts, I just run ahead and pull the next group of adds regardless of my role. If not on a tank, the npcs will then start running towards you with the first group of adds as soon as you pull and it speeds things up considerably.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 09-04-2022 at 08:10 PM.

  3. #13
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    Good job! There is people saying it takes 6months+ to do it lol. Of course I told them they were wrong as I’ve ran many chars from arr to ew without a story skip as well which none of them took more than a month or two even without progressing every day.
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    Last edited by Nyxs; 09-04-2022 at 08:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syalyx View Post
    From my experience with speedrunning, I've found that playing a healing job will always be a the most fastest/optimal choice seeing as how the queues are usually instant as-is and this especially matters when it comes to trials. In addition, players are more capable of pulling more trash mobs which leads to a quicker time than using the trust/duty support system.
    And you have more control over saving situations than on other classes and wipes not only cost time but there is also a small risk of people getting into arguments/ leaving. But it was interesting to see the differences between classes/ roles.
    While I didn't attempt any speedruns, I always leveled a healer while doing MSQ for fastest queue times and more control over the situation and I wasn't locked to playing MSQ at prime time since MSQ trials popped decently fast even at odd hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxs View Post
    Good job! There is people saying it takes 6months+ to do it lol. Of course I told them they were wrong as I’ve ran many chars from arr to ew without a story skip as well which none of them took more than a month even without progressing every day.
    I don’t see how you can do that in a month without skipping cutscenes and a lot of other significant side content, even if one can afford playing several hours per day.

    Also, nor the op or these people are wrong: there are many ways to play the game and neither is right or wrong. To each their own. I am about one year in on an alt that I play actively and I just finished 5.0 but I did a lot of side content.

    Also by curiosity, I wonder when Op reached level 90 in the story doing a speedrun. Players starting fresh runs but playing “normally” in my fc become over levelled pretty fast.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 09-04-2022 at 08:44 PM.

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    Remi Poemi
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    I cant even complete MSQ on main character, I am so jealous now
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    It's pretty telling that all of the DPS are close together and the tank fair better but healing is the fastest by a lot. Kind of like there's a lack of healers so queues are super fast.
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    Pural Zural
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxs View Post
    Good job! There is people saying it takes 6months+ to do it lol. Of course I told them they were wrong as I’ve ran many chars from arr to ew without a story skip as well which none of them took more than a month or two even without progressing every day.
    Surprisingly, it took me over the span of 4-5ish months to complete all 5 characters since I was (of course) playing on-off. Also, thank you!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    And you have more control over saving situations than on other classes and wipes not only cost time but there is also a small risk of people getting into arguments/ leaving. But it was interesting to see the differences between classes/ roles.
    While I didn't attempt any speedruns, I always leveled a healer while doing MSQ for fastest queue times and more control over the situation and I wasn't locked to playing MSQ at prime time since MSQ trials popped decently fast even at odd hours.
    Very true! What I've learned from playing all roles for the first time is to just do your best and ignore/dont respond to negativity. Most of the time it's best to just not say anything at all. As for playtime, around the time I started the Paladin is when I began to play only during peak times during the day (when people got off of work/folks were out of school) and played on weekends to be as efficient as possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    I don’t see how you can do that in a month without skipping cutscenes and a lot of other significant side content, even if one can afford playing several hours per day.

    Also, nor the op or these people are wrong: there are many ways to play the game and neither is right or wrong. To each their own. I am about one year in on an alt that I play actively and I just finished 5.0 but I did a lot of side content.

    Also by curiosity, I wonder when Op reached level 90 in the story doing a speedrun. Players starting fresh runs but playing “normally” in my fc become over levelled pretty fast.
    That's the beauty of basing the speedrun off of /played, so you don't have to no-life it for several hours haha. When it came to hitting 90, I usually hit it around the time of completing the Aitiascope or a bit before/during The Dead Ends. The roughest part about the whole leveling ordeal is when you have to be level 48 and 50 during the ARR stopgates (Castrum/Praetorium) because you have to spam the leveling roulettes 4-6 times which wastes a bunch of time. I have a possible solution for this and I plan on beating this record again but not anytime soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Remolia View Post
    I cant even complete MSQ on main character, I am so jealous now
    Enjoy the story and take your time~ It's definitely a treat the first time around.
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    Last edited by Syalyx; 09-04-2022 at 10:12 PM. Reason: a word

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    Grats to that, here have a cookie. As next challenge you could try to find a job.

    How do you know he doesn' thave a job?
    Maybe he's a collage student and did this during his vacations in between new study years.
    Or maybe he has a job and did this during his yearly vacations?


    In short you don't know.


    Stop assuming, it's rude.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    I would have found it interesting to see the time spent on a physical ranged DPS.

    I have to wonder if the longer queue time for MNK/NIN is because there are more players who like to play the melee jobs, or if it's only because there are more melee jobs to be leveled compared to the other DPS roles (5 melee versus 3 phys ranged and 3 magic ranged).
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