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  1. #21
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    Anienai Talenca
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    Zalera
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    Grats doooood(ette)!
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    The price of solving everything is everything.
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    Roe, no question. Why be a kitten when you can be a goddess?

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    Marshmallow Puff
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    Warrior Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I would have found it interesting to see the time spent on a physical ranged DPS.

    I have to wonder if the longer queue time for MNK/NIN is because there are more players who like to play the melee jobs, or if it's only because there are more melee jobs to be leveled compared to the other DPS roles (5 melee versus 3 phys ranged and 3 magic ranged).
    I thought that in normal mode, which is all you need for a speedrun, a dps is a dps and the type doesn’t matter when queuing. I often get paired with the same type of jobs. Most likely the difference lies elsewhere, op learned some tricks to make a faster run and/or ran at busier times. I don’t notice a difference when I queue melee vs range dps.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 09-05-2022 at 12:38 AM. Reason: Fat fingers on phone

  3. #23
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    Tyria Xepheles
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    Siren
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    Carpenter Lv 90
    Maybe I'm just bad at it but I leveled 24 alts to level 50 and that alone takes me 3 days despite skipping cutscenes. Although I do unlock quests like the aesthetician, glamours, gold Saucer etc. Things that I find necessary. I always get stuck on Heavenward because I find HW so boring
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  4. #24
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    Koyuki Himekawa
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    Malboro
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    Conjurer Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Syalyx View Post
    That's the beauty of basing the speedrun off of /played, so you don't have to no-life it for several hours haha. When it came to hitting 90, I usually hit it around the time of completing the Aitiascope or a bit before/during The Dead Ends. The roughest part about the whole leveling ordeal is when you have to be level 48 and 50 during the ARR stopgates (Castrum/Praetorium) because you have to spam the leveling roulettes 4-6 times which wastes a bunch of time. I have a possible solution for this and I plan on beating this record again but not anytime soon.
    When I do them I pick up the others jobs along the way to siphon some of the exp into them. Works pretty well up to EW which seemed to not even out as easily. Probably have to test out a few things to see where to spread the exp and where to just get the exp as the main job. Ran into a few spots where I was lacking the level to continue which was unfortunate.
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    Last edited by Nyxs; 09-05-2022 at 02:03 AM.

  5. #25
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    Fiona Silverstorm
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaerron View Post
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    Well i know how long it takes to level a new char from Zero to max level. Assuming he didnt used a leveling and story skip potion for each char and skipped all cutscenes he would needed min 1 week for each char, playing all day. A regular person would more likely need around 2 weeks or more (depending on how long she plays each day). Lets assume he really just needed 1 week, that this alone would be at least 5 weeks. You don't have time for this if you have a normal job. Even if he has 30 days and took them all at once it would be crazy to waste them for something like this.

    Btw. beeing a student doesn't count as a job, you are still learning and doesn't earn your own money. Except you have a part time job, but then also your time would be limited if you want to get a good degree.
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  6. #26
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    Pural Zural
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I would have found it interesting to see the time spent on a physical ranged DPS.

    I have to wonder if the longer queue time for MNK/NIN is because there are more players who like to play the melee jobs, or if it's only because there are more melee jobs to be leveled compared to the other DPS roles (5 melee versus 3 phys ranged and 3 magic ranged).
    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    I thought that in normal mode, which is all you need for a speedrun, a dps is a dps and the type doesn’t matter when queuing. I often get paired with the same type of jobs. Most likely the difference lies elsewhere, op learned some tricks to make a faster run and/or ran at busier times. I don’t notice a difference when I queue melee vs range dps.
    In response to both: I think what the game tries to right off the bat do is group/pool you (if you're a tank or healer) with a single melee DPS and a ranged dps (whether it be ranged physical or ranged caster) first then depending on the queue time, eliminates that factor and just pools you with everyone after a certain amount of time but I'm not entirely sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by not_ya_wify View Post
    Maybe I'm just bad at it but I leveled 24 alts to level 50 and that alone takes me 3 days despite skipping cutscenes. Although I do unlock quests like the aesthetician, glamours, gold Saucer etc. Things that I find necessary. I always get stuck on Heavenward because I find HW so boring
    IMO the worst expansion to run was always Stormblood because it's the longest (around 12-14 hours)

    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    Well i know how long it takes to level a new char from Zero to max level. Assuming he didnt used a leveling and story skip potion for each char and skipped all cutscenes he would needed min 1 week for each char, playing all day. A regular person would more likely need around 2 weeks or more (depending on how long she plays each day). Lets assume he really just needed 1 week, that this alone would be at least 5 weeks. You don't have time for this if you have a normal job. Even if he has 30 days and took them all at once it would be crazy to waste them for something like this.

    Btw. beeing a student doesn't count as a job, you are still learning and doesn't earn your own money. Except you have a part time job, but then also your time would be limited if you want to get a good degree.
    As already stated, it took me 4-5ish months to complete all 5 characters which (rounded out) equates to a character per month if you think about it. The runs are based off of /playtime so you're allowed to log out and not be penalized for taking a break. From my experience, ARR takes about 20-22 hours skipping all cutscenes and the following expansions take around anywhere near 10-14 hours to complete each. Remember, this isn't any different than just simply playing the game itself for fun which takes even more time. Everyone has different ways of enjoying many things.
    Sorry to have had offended you.
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    Last edited by Syalyx; 09-05-2022 at 07:15 AM. Reason: a word

  7. #27
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Diabolos
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Missbone View Post
    Well i know how long it takes to level a new char from Zero to max level. Assuming he didnt used a leveling and story skip potion for each char and skipped all cutscenes he would needed min 1 week for each char, playing all day. A regular person would more likely need around 2 weeks or more (depending on how long she plays each day). Lets assume he really just needed 1 week, that this alone would be at least 5 weeks. You don't have time for this if you have a normal job. Even if he has 30 days and took them all at once it would be crazy to waste them for something like this.

    Btw. beeing a student doesn't count as a job, you are still learning and doesn't earn your own money. Except you have a part time job, but then also your time would be limited if you want to get a good degree.
    Some people have the ability to no life the game and be financially stable, especially with work from home being a thing now. One of the people in my raid group literally progs while in meetings lol.
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  8. #28
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    Miyu Bubbles
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    Cool but I'm lowkey concerned about you lmao
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  9. #29
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    I thought that in normal mode, which is all you need for a speedrun, a dps is a dps and the type doesn’t matter when queuing. I often get paired with the same type of jobs. Most likely the difference lies elsewhere, op learned some tricks to make a faster run and/or ran at busier times. I don’t notice a difference when I queue melee vs range dps.
    They said at one point that the goal is to pair a melee with a ranged, though you can get the same paired depending on who's waiting in queue.

    There may not be much overall difference in the individual queue times, but when you're talking about all queues over the course of leveling it can add up.
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    I just speed ran an alt, who was already a level 90 WAR with full Classical gear prior to starting, through the start of 5.3 to the end of 6.0, doing only the MSQ and skipping all but two important cutscenes in about a 18 hours' worth of focused playing. It's worth noting that I turned all quests in on BLM, but otherwise did all content on WAR and had to do a leveling roulette near the end of each zone/story arc to get up to a level where I was able to turn quests in again and I counted that time in the total since waiting for a queue on DPS at my play schedule can be a decent wait.
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