Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
That doesn't make sense. G'raha only changed history as far back as he travelled, which was only to the point shortly after the Warriors of Darkness returned to the First and halted the Flood. He can't have altered events in Elpis by doing that.

The events at Elpis only need to happen once. They lead to the Sundering, the Sundering leads to history as we know it and onwards into the 8UC timeline, but the end result of G'raha time-travelling interference means that at the same time there is already the second path of time where the calamity is averted. We travel from that branch of time back to Elpis, inadvertently setting off the chain of events.
If Graha does not go back in time, and the events of Shadowbringers never happen, we live within the 8UC timeline, in which WE DIE. If we die at that point in time (the end of Stormblood) we are not ALIVE to go back in time to warn Venat and have our adventures in Elpis. Remember one of the biiiiiiiiiiiiiiig reasons the 8UC timeline is the "bad-end" is because we the player character, no longer exist, having been killed off.

Thus because Graha goes back in time, to an alternate universe, he allows us to live. By allowing us to live we eventually go back in time to Elpis. No Graha, no Elpis.

Yet the sundered world EXISTS. So because the sundered world exists, there had to have had two parallel sunderings. One where we meddled and one where we did not because we were dead and couldnt go back in time to meddle.