SE, please listen to the constant feedback about the glamour system

[TheDustyOne]

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I can only go on what I've seen from many people in-game and out of game, the moment I bring up the idea of a glamour log, or someone talks about a previous games implementation of something, everyone else around usually wishes we had something similar instead of a limited number of slots and dyes that take up half a retainers inventory. The fact we get threads every other day with hundreds of replies is testament to that at the very least.
You're the only one I've seen that's dedicated to the idea of not having changes to this for some reason.

And by the same token of letting users dictate what gets added, if you ignore what users want, you're also committing business suicide. Even Yoshi wants a glamour log system and his team just struggles to implement it.

About the only reason I can see this system being "better" is because the glamour dresser holds dye info. But the dye system is also extremely flawed and I'd rather see that reworked as well.

[Avatre]

About the only reason I can see this system being "better" is because the glamour dresser holds dye info. But the dye system is also extremely flawed and I'd rather see that reworked as well.

If only it held the actual dyes as well.

[TheDustyOne]

I'd be able to free up a good 100+ slots from my inventory and retainer if it did that's for sure.

[Arzalis]

I'm aware of what WoW can do and it's still managing so much less than XIV would and on top of that people want the job restrictions removed. People need to take a good honest look at everything and realize it may be some time before this change comes, if ever.


Again, I'm NOT AGAINST any kind of change. I (and others) just accept the reality of the situation. The dresser was an afterthought, coming out 4 years ago in the middle of stormblood. Simple math (they just lost revenue on people with at least 2 additional retainers for glam storage) and observation of their tendencies towards this feature show the truth of the matter. This update just dropped and they already knew some people wouldn't be happy with it. No amount of recycled threads is going to change anything.

People said the same thing about Hrothgar ears, Male Viera, etc. and here we are.

When I pay for something, I don't just settle for mediocrity. Especially when I know the devs can do better. People do have unrealistic demands sometimes, but this isn't one of them.

[Silverbane]

You're [meaning me] the only one I've seen that's dedicated to the idea of not having changes to this for some reason.

Truth just isn't a priority for you isn't it? I've explicitly posted to this forum at least one enhancement I would like: storing dyes in the glamour chest.

Why don't you stick to posting as fact things you actually know? Assuming, of course, you can tell what that is. Imagine how much more time you'd have to touch grass if you did.

And by the same token of letting users dictate what gets added, if you ignore what users want, you're also committing business suicide.

Ah, the use of the fallacy of the excluded middle to try (but fail) to refute someone else's point raises it's ugly head yet again.

I'd be able to free up a good 100+ slots from my inventory and retainer if it did that's for sure.

Yeah, we know: you want the galmour system revamped so you can store more gear without needing to pay for retainers.
Since I have 9 retainers on many of my characters (and could have 9 on all 12) I don't see that as an issue.
That said, I don't store much gear in them -- they're nearly full of crafting mats.

[DPZ2]

People do have unrealistic demands sometimes, but this isn't one of them.

You must have read the posts here about the "can't get there from here using the current engine" reported by people quoting Yoshi P. The demand, in this case, is unrealistic, despite what you appear to believe.

If you want to wait for them to rewrite the current engine, fine. They can incorporate what you desire then. That's pretty much what happened in WoW. The original game engine would never have worked for Transmog. They rewrote the entire thing ... the expansion was called Cataclysm. Transmog appeared after that.

[Reimmi]

Just remove glamour restrictions for every single piece of gear that isn't job AF gear
It's not like it'd require remodeling any gear

[Silverbane]

When I pay for something, I don't just settle for mediocrity.

Wrong. When you pay for something, you're paying for what the seller offers and nothing more, not what you wish they would offer.
Too many people here don't understand that.

[DragonFlyy]

You must have read the posts here about the "can't get there from here using the current engine" reported by people quoting Yoshi P. The demand, in this case, is unrealistic, despite what you appear to believe.

If you want to wait for them to rewrite the current engine, fine. They can incorporate what you desire then. That's pretty much what happened in WoW. The original game engine would never have worked for Transmog. They rewrote the entire thing ... the expansion was called Cataclysm. Transmog appeared after that.

And we all saw how bad Cataclysm was due to devoting time to rewriting the engine. Would you, or any of these other people, be okay with having little to no content in an expansion release to get a new engine?

[TheDustyOne]

Truth just isn't a priority for you isn't it? I've explicitly posted to this forum at least one enhancement I would like: storing dyes in the glamour chest.

Why don't you stick to posting as fact things you actually know? Assuming, of course, you can tell what that is. Imagine how much more time you'd have to touch grass if you did.

Now you're just arguing in bad faith, did I piss in your cereal or something? Stop putting words in my mouth at the very least.

As for the storing dyes bit, it's at least one thing you and I can agree on. But I was talking about the glamour log section specifically when referring to something you don't want changes on. I admit I could've worded that better, but at the very least don't just cherry pick what you want out of my post.
You'd probably have more allies in this if you weren't so hostile, all I did was say I want something and that there's quite a few people that also want it. Maybe you should take your own advice about touching grass.

Ah, the use of the fallacy of the excluded middle to try (but fail) to refute someone else's point raises it's ugly head yet again.

And yet you also jumped to the extreme of "if everything that users wanted was included that it'd be committing suicide" (paraphrasing here, not the exact wording). You yourself didn't include the middle and instead jumped that because YOU didn't want something, that everyone else is just being ungrateful complainers who should shut up and live with what we've got.

Honestly if this is how you're going to have any discussion with people, then there's no point arguing.
All I said was "I want this thing", and you're the one being hostile towards people who want that thing.