SE, please listen to the constant feedback about the glamour system

[TheDustyOne]

Truth just isn't a priority for you isn't it? I've explicitly posted to this forum at least one enhancement I would like: storing dyes in the glamour chest.

Why don't you stick to posting as fact things you actually know? Assuming, of course, you can tell what that is. Imagine how much more time you'd have to touch grass if you did.

Now you're just arguing in bad faith, did I piss in your cereal or something? Stop putting words in my mouth at the very least.

As for the storing dyes bit, it's at least one thing you and I can agree on. But I was talking about the glamour log section specifically when referring to something you don't want changes on. I admit I could've worded that better, but at the very least don't just cherry pick what you want out of my post.
You'd probably have more allies in this if you weren't so hostile, all I did was say I want something and that there's quite a few people that also want it. Maybe you should take your own advice about touching grass.

Ah, the use of the fallacy of the excluded middle to try (but fail) to refute someone else's point raises it's ugly head yet again.

And yet you also jumped to the extreme of "if everything that users wanted was included that it'd be committing suicide" (paraphrasing here, not the exact wording). You yourself didn't include the middle and instead jumped that because YOU didn't want something, that everyone else is just being ungrateful complainers who should shut up and live with what we've got.

Honestly if this is how you're going to have any discussion with people, then there's no point arguing.
All I said was "I want this thing", and you're the one being hostile towards people who want that thing.

[Silverbane]

All I said was "I want this thing", and you're the one being hostile towards people who want that thing.

Another lie. You said " there's a lot more people that would rather a more comprehensive log system than what we have now." That's a direct quote, not a paraphrase: unlike you, I don't try to deceive people regarding what other people posted by putting supposed "paraphrasing" inside quotation marks.

So if I seem hostile to people who are obviously telling lies ...

Later:

And yes, there IS a lot of people that want a more comprehensive log system ...

Now you are trying to deceive people about what you yourself posted. You wrote:

"And honestly there's a lot more people that would rather a more comprehensive log system than what we have now" (emphasis added)

which is an entirely different statement. It's the difference between saying, for example "a lot of people voted for Clinton" (officially true) and "a lot more people voted for Clinton than Trump" (officially false).

You do know what this concept they call "truth" is, don't you?

[TheDustyOne]

that lets the majority of its users dictate what features are added is committing suicide

Happy? Just because the wording isn't the same doesn't mean it can't contain the same meaning. That's what paraphrasing is. And yes, there IS a lot of people that want a more comprehensive log system, we wouldn't have a bunch of threads with lots of replies if that wasn't true, where's the lie in that? You are being hostile about it. The first post you had in this thread pointed to people that want a log system as a group of complainers, your first reply to me was taking some personal offence over the word "we".

For anyone else that frequents the forum, is Silverbane normally like this? Or did I just find them on a bad day?

[Siddiax]

Happy? Just because the wording isn't the same doesn't mean it can't contain the same meaning. That's what paraphrasing is. And yes, there IS a lot of people that want a more comprehensive log system, we wouldn't have a bunch of threads with lots of replies if that wasn't true, where's the lie in that? You are being hostile about it. The first post you had in this thread pointed to people that want a log system as a group of complainers, your first reply to me was taking some personal offence over the word "we".

For anyone else that frequents the forum, is Silverbane normally like this? Or did I just find them on a bad day?

Silverbane has a strange obsession with defending one of the worst systems FFXIV has to offer. So yes, this is typical.


In any case, I'd say it's a matter of time for the glamour dresser to be reworked. Most likely with 7.0 or its patches, as that expansion already seems to be heavier on the reworks.

I'm looking forward to it. That and the removal of the role restrictions of course.

[Silverbane]

Silverbane has a strange obsession with defending one of the worst systems the game has. So yes, this is the usual.

Nah, I just dislike letting charlatans, liars, and the unredeemably deluded/ignorant run rampant, and the group of posters demanding the glamour system change has a high population of all of those.

[Siddiax]

Nah, I just dislike letting charlatans, liars, and the unredeemably deluded/ignorant run rampant, and the group of posters demanding the glamour system change has a high population of all of those.

Who are you, the forum police ?

Do you realise how sad you look arguing against hundreds (much more outside the forums) who wish for the rework of a lacking system ?

[Silverbane]

Do you realise how sad you look arguing against hundreds (much more outside the forums) who wish for the rework of a lacking system ?

Damn, HUNDREDS you say? Out of the MILLIONS of players out there?
That's pretty weak support for your side, especially since unhappy people are more likely to publicly complain than happy ones are.

But if you want to accuse me of being an iconoclast (look it up) I'll gladly accept the honor.

[TheDustyOne]

Now you are trying to deceive people about what you yourself posted. You wrote:
"And honestly there's a lot more people that would rather a more comprehensive log system than what we have now"

The "than what we have now" is in regards to the current glamour system we have now compared to a log system, you're the one twisting the truth here. At best I could've worded it better, but you're the one spouting lies here and putting words in my mouth.

I'm done, you never intended to argue in good faith and Siddiax just confirmed it for me that you're not worth my time.