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  1. #61
    Player Darthgummibear's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    I just laugh when people, unable to refute what I post, attack me instead.
    Because why would they resort to posts that are exclusively ad hominem attacks, except that they had nothing else to offer? Nothing to post except to make the thread about me?

    But I expect no better from the Internet.
    After all, not many people have been taught how to construct a rational argument.
    And no one is born with that skill.
    That's rich coming from the person who blanketly attacked everyone with an opinion different from their own.
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  2. #62
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    Yoshida! Please listen to us arguing and bickering like smelly 4 year olds!
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  3. #63
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    Tbh, that's typical official forums thread ( i rarely post myself, prefer to just read the threads lol)
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    I don't want the system reworked. Does my opinion have a say on this matter? Probably not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    I don't want the system reworked. Does my opinion have a say on this matter? Probably not.
    Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, and state their opinion. When things turn into personal attacks, that's when whoever has resorted to those attacks gets their opinions thrown out the window. Usually because they can't even keep a discussion civil.

    It's perfectly fine to have differing opinions, but things like one of the tags at the bottom of this being "white knights go away", those just show that people can't have civil discourse. And honestly, because of that type of stuff, is why the NA forums are largely ignored. And because there tend to be dozens of threads about the exact same thing rather than one large thread that is easier to search through for information when brought to the devs attention.
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  7. #66
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    When a game like GW2 can have the dye system it does at the height of its popularity while having also released in 2012, I don't want to hear that it's impossible in FFXIV.

    When City of Heroes, an MMO that was created in 2004 could have literally millions of outfit combinations (that can be changed any time) and working cape physics, not to mention that NCSoft's budget was a fraction of what SquareEnix can manage, I don't want to hear it's impossible in FFXIV.

    I understand there being higher priorities at the moment but Square really needs to bite the bullet and overhaul this game's engine. The failed 1.0 foundation is seriously holding this game back. It could be so much more amazing if the time and resources were dedicated to it. We could also do without Yoshi using the "cross-class weapons" strawman argument whenever he speaks about the topic.
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  8. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagick View Post
    When a game like GW2 can have the dye system it does at the height of its popularity while having also released in 2012, I don't want to hear that it's impossible in FFXIV.

    When City of Heroes, an MMO that was created in 2004 could have literally millions of outfit combinations (that can be changed any time) and working cape physics, not to mention that NCSoft's budget was a fraction of what SquareEnix can manage, I don't want to hear it's impossible in FFXIV.

    I understand there being higher priorities at the moment but Square really needs to bite the bullet and overhaul this game's engine. The failed 1.0 foundation is seriously holding this game back. It could be so much more amazing if the time and resources were dedicated to it. We could also do without Yoshi using the "cross-class weapons" strawman argument whenever he speaks about the topic.
    We could also do without Yoshi and everyone in the dev team currently. Replace them all with new, hip and fresher people.






    of course Im joking btw.
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  9. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    I don't want the system reworked. Does my opinion have a say on this matter? Probably not.
    You get as much say as anyone here. And just as much as someone who posts hundreds of times with the same complaint. (Most of us learned as children that repeating the same demand again and again and again wasn't productive, but there's always someone who misses the memo.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jagick View Post
    I understand there being higher priorities at the moment [than doing an overhaul of the engine] ...
    And there always will be. They've overhauled FFXIV once. I think next time, they'll just create a new MMO and leave this one generating revenue, like they did with FFXI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagick View Post
    When a game like GW2 can have ...
    We do have a dye system -- that you apparently don't like.

    We do have a system for outfit combinations that can be changed any time ... that you apparently don't like.

    I get it. You want your favorite <insert gaming idea from another game> in this game. Ask for it, politely. Do not get irate if there is no response, or you are told "no". Feel free, of course, to express displeasure by halting your subscription and moving on to another game that has everything you desire. I have never found such a game, mind you, in the 40+ years I've been playing computer games. A few come close, including this one.

    The 'failed foundation of 1.0' is not holding the game back. They completely ditched the underlying game engine when they started rebuilding the game 10 years ago. About the only thing they took from 1.0 was a [buggy] networking infrastructure and a lot of art.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    ... of course Im joking btw.
    Phew. I was starting to think that someone actually believes that Western cultural ideas about "new, hip and fresher people" are even possible given the requirement that this game's developers speak and write Japanese fluently.
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