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  1. 08-21-2022 10:02 PM #1
    Deceptus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    WHM has no Succor equivalent to soften the blow.
    Out of your whole post I take issue with this.

    WHM does have a succor equivalent, it's called Medica II, and that medica 2 heals for far more than succor does (520p vs 1000p).

    You have to look at shield healers based on their shields and regen healers based on their regens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Out of your whole post I take issue with this.

    WHM does have a succor equivalent, it's called Medica II, and that medica 2 heals for far more than succor does (520p vs 1000p).

    You have to look at shield healers based on their shields and regen healers based on their regens.
    But shields also absorb damage, which can prevent a partymember from being KO'ed.
    Medica II can't heal those who are KO'ed. (❁°͈▵°͈)
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  3. 08-22-2022 02:36 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    But shields also absorb damage, which can prevent a partymember from being KO'ed.
    Medica II can't heal those who are KO'ed. (❁°͈▵°͈)
    Said this a few pages back:

    AoE shield is less than 10% of your hp bar at most gear levels, even less than that for a tank. If that is the difference between life and death in your group, they need to learn what reprisal / feint-addle / troubadour / sacred soil (etc) are.

    If you're a SCH and you need an aoe shield, you're going to deploy a Critlo or at a base level, an Adlo or just not shield and fey blessing / Indom the damage.
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  4. 08-22-2022 06:51 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Out of your whole post I take issue with this.

    WHM does have a succor equivalent, it's called Medica II, and that medica 2 heals for far more than succor does (520p vs 1000p).

    You have to look at shield healers based on their shields and regen healers based on their regens.
    But that just circles back to the points of

    A) regens are pretty worthless compared to mitigation (not necessarily shields but mitigation or shields)
    B) shield healers have plenty strong regens themselves that don’t require GCD use

    Looking at regen healers for their regens is pretty pointless because high end content doesn’t like regens and powerful overheal, it likes mitigation
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