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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    FFXIV's combat system is just too rigid right now for specializations to work.
    If you want proof positive of this, look no further than Tanks.

    Last expansion the Devs said their "vision" was for there to be two Main Tanks, and two Off Tanks (more support oriented). Look how quickly that dissolved into meaningless tripe.

    From the Mr. Happy Interview 3 years ago:

    Mr.Happy) Mostly because we really expected it to be both a tank and a healer for the expansion.

    Yoshi-P) Simply we only had two ranged physical DPS so we wanted to add another. We have 4 tanks and 4 melee dps, 3 casters and 3 healers, and yet there were only 2 ranged dps. We wanted to balance the number of jobs across the board.

    We also really wanted to add another tank to balance the tanks more. With 4 tanks, we can better balance the tank role, with two main tanks and two off-tanks.

    When players decide which role or job to play. Even a small difference in abilities and attribute make a big difference. People like to take Paladin as an off-tank thanks to abilities like Cover, so the Warrior and Dark Knight are fighting for the main-tank spot most commonly.

    So hypothetically speaking, if we rebalance things and put Warrior as MT, then the Paladin and Dark Knight would be fighting for off-tank. No matter what we really needed to balance this with two and two. Its much more fair this way, so its two jobs between main tank and two between off-tank. This is very tentative so please convey this is no indication at all of our final plans.

    When looking at this history of healing jobs. Making strong balance between three jobs it has been tough. With three its been tough, so with a 4th the balance might get even worse. Instead of doing this, we want to prioritize balancing them better this expansion so we didn’t want to add a new healer at 4.0 or 5.0. We really think we need to restructure the way healers are handled. We can’t keep this strict division between pure healer and barrier healer. Something needs to change here so we can maintain good balance. Thats the main reason we didn’t have a healer. First priority was to add a 3rd ranged, then a 4th tank while we balance the healers better.
    They gave up on the MT / OT system and doubled down on the Barrier / Regen healer systems. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    They gave up on the MT / OT system and doubled down on the Barrier / Regen healer systems. . .
    I feel like we need that Palpatine "Ironic..." meme here.

    I had forgotten Yoshi P basically said NOT to do what they ended up doing in EW. XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    I feel like we need that Palpatine "Ironic..." meme here.

    I had forgotten Yoshi P basically said NOT to do what they ended up doing in EW. XD
    When people point out that Yoshi has no idea what his people under him are doing, stuff like that is a prime example. And it's not like it's rare, it has happened more than once.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]