RIP SAM - no reverts planned for 6.2

[CelestiCer]

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That sounds like another great Healer thread... that shouldn't be discussed in this Samurai thread...or the DPS section?

We're not here to have a flaccid contest on which genitals are being made the most flaccid, which chest is the flattest or which buns are the least... bunfull? (wait what?)

== Very Simple ==

• Samurai Issues
• Samurai Thread
• Samurai Changes
• Samurai requested Feedback
• Samurai Feedback Given
• Samurai Feedback ignored

== That's it ==

Very sorry ( not even being sarcastic here, I mean it ) on what healers have lost. I pointed that out a lot of times in other discussions and post to showcase the lack of care Square has yes. I just don't believe in pinning players against players.

Feedback was ignored, and a Job was made dull and boring and yes people are losing their minds or at the least plenty are having a lot less fun * unrelated to their DPS performance * just gameplay.

I am just getting so tired at the 30th idk what healer post this is at this point about Healers on Samurai threads =___=; to somehow discredit or devalue Samurai's negative changes? like I don't even know what the point of this is. They all been negative gameplay changes... like where are we going with this...

[IllyaPrisma]

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Because the healer community has been vocal about their disappointment for years now. I understand your frustration and the lack of feedback or anything meaningful regarding the job you love. But we have never ever EVER gotten any sort of response. No acknowledgment. Zip. Nada. "Go Play Ultimate". The SAM community will continue to be vocal, as will the entire healer community. At this point however, I firmly believe that nothing will come of it.

[CelestiCer]

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That's something at least I can agree on.

I went to the Healer Double Standard thread just now and glanced over it. I just do not believe in pinning players against players. As if my 8 months of playing somehow should equate to having enough knowledge to talk or have empathy for another Job or Role. The forum experience of my 1st few posts were met with healers shaming my feedback on the Samurai changes on Samurai threads? on the DPS subsection. Like really? That's my FFXIV intro to the forum...

Grievance Comparison's can go into the bin. Bad Changes are Bad changes, and Square just needs to do something about it, period. I have experienced plenty of years throughout MMORPG's with negative changes. A good reason why I am so vocal on the only Job I play, I do not want to see FFXIV getting worse. But I don't want it to be a " protest simulator ". PVE combat related? I play only Samurai, I know mostly only Samurai, I give feedback only on Samurai. That's it, and you'd be surprised that plenty of Forum accounts like mine are made purely cause of negative Samurai changes that equate more then just 1 button removal.

I and plenty others probably do not want to be shamed however...
into caring about something they do not have passion for nor another job or role they do not play...

[IllyaPrisma]

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That's all reasonable.

The recent surge of SAM feedback on Kaiten encouraged Healers to post in DPS forums, mainly because the removal of meaningful skills is something we know better than anyone. My hope is that if enough attention is garnered around the removal of Kaiten, it will shed light on Healer feedback as well. (And I have no shame in saying that I would personally find it unfair if Kaiten is returned to SAM and no abilities were brought back to Healers).

The Healer Forum also feels like a "Forum to Ignore" marker has been placed on it...

[Deithwen]

That's all reasonable.

The recent surge of SAM feedback on Kaiten encouraged Healers to post in DPS forums, mainly because the removal of meaningful skills is something we know better than anyone. My hope is that if enough attention is garnered around the removal of Kaiten, it will shed light on Healer feedback as well. (And I have no shame in saying that I would personally find it unfair if Kaiten is returned to SAM and no abilities were brought back to Healers).

The Healer Forum also feels like a "Forum to Ignore" marker has been placed on it...

I thought you didn't understand how people could be so vocal about the removal of a skill? Or maybe you're just an hypocrite because you actually cared?