Thread: RIP SAM - no reverts planned for 6.2

It is what it is. We'll know more in the next live letter and if they don't make any changes then next raid tier I'll simply play something else.

Originally Posted by Ransu

It is what it is. We'll know more in the next live letter and if they don't make any changes then next raid tier I'll simply play something else.

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Can’t catch em all

I am glad they stuck with their agenda

Originally Posted by KurenXIV

Welp, that's the end of that:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/467713



The context here is super important, it means they don't give a shit how we feel. This is the "you think you want it but you don't" moment for XIV.

Consider my sub cancelled. What a god damn shame.

To be honest this is nothing new from part 1. But yes since they double down on keeping auto crit mechanic (see auto crit adjustment with buffs) SAM will probably wont be reverted.

The thing that you made in bold is simply translates "Yeah we know better about SAM/DRG/AST so gtfo and play something else"

Originally Posted by Vencio

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Can’t catch em all

I am glad they stuck with their agenda

You literally paying like 12 euros per months to get more people hate you over internet, mom has good credit balance?

I don't see any specific mention of SAM in any of this.

All they've indicated is a move to revert back to their older system in ARR/Heavensward of not doing significant job reworks outside of expansion launches, and promised some posts with a view to discussing job direction and design philosophy. The latter is essential communication from the dev team and something I've personally been asking for years. As for the former, while I really wish it were otherwise, I really can't fault them on that decision. Given how the community reacts to job changes, it's probably for the best.

My only guess why they would stick to these recent job changes is because they already planned future skills/traits for the jobs, so reverting things, would be a greater set back. If folks dont like a jobs changes just switch to a new job or bail on the games altogether, devs look deeply into the jobs popularity, so if hardily anyone is playing then theyll look into future changes...

Originally Posted by KurenXIV

The context here is super important, it means they don't give a shit how we feel. This is the "you think you want it but you don't" moment for XIV.

The context is super important - the context being that 1) that's literally not what they said and 2) "we" doesn't actually mean "everyone" or "most players." In fact, they are saying it specifically because "we’d still like to alleviate the current situation where players are completely left in the dark when it comes to changes."

Originally Posted by KurenXIV

Consider my sub cancelled. What a god damn shame.

If the game isn't fun for you, doing something else with your time is very reasonable! It's not a shame at all! Your hobbies should be fun!

Not to be blunt but you allow yourself to feel limited whilst the job still remains strong.

But all in all -provides white glove service door exit- cheerio!

I'm very sorry, but I've been reading these type of threads on several MMORPG's during several years and I still don't get it... Why are these threads created constantly?

It's unrealistic to expect that your favorite class (mine is also SAM) should be balanced and fun every single day of the year.

Sometimes your class is the best designed out there and other times you have to make room for another class to shine.

I'm not trying to step on anyones toes here bur people really are taking changes way too seriously.

Would it be better if classes never changed in MMORPG's and played the same for 10+ years or is it better if the devs take chances and fail sometimes and succeed other times?

I at least vote for the 2nd option.