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  1. #281
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deithwen View Post
    Wrong, Kaiten was initially removed to tackle action bloat. Which was invalid from the start since it did not impact APM and they were better skills to remove or merge.
    Hmmm, it's as if they chose Kaiten even though there were better choices, because the majority of skills that it was used for changed to guaranteed critical damage.

    Despite your gaslighting, my stance hasn't changed. Losing 1 ability mid-expansion does not compare to what the Healer community has lost as a whole. However, I do understand the frustration in losing an ability that felt like a core part of the Job, and the need to be vocal about it.

    Imagine that there are 3 Houses in a neighborhood. One of the houses is literally on fire, and another house is missing a window. Do you put out the fire first? Or do you prioritize repairing the window first...
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  2. #282
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    Deithwen Feainnewedd
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    Quote Originally Posted by IllyaPrisma View Post
    Hmmm, it's as if they chose Kaiten even though there were better choices, because the majority of skills that it was used for changed to guaranteed critical damage.

    Despite your gaslighting, my stance hasn't changed. Losing 1 ability mid-expansion does not compare to what the Healer community has lost as a whole. However, I do understand the frustration in losing an ability that felt like a core part of the Job, and the need to be vocal about it.

    Imagine that there are 3 Houses in a neighborhood. One of the houses is literally on fire, and another house is missing a window. Do you put out the fire first? Or do you prioritize repairing the window first...
    You are right, it does not change anything to the fact that you should apply what you preach to yourself. It's crazy that you cry over healer skills.
    But just to add more on the absurdities you are spouting.
    - 6.1 was not mid expansion, at all. It was on top of that just before the next ultimate. This only makes it different by nature.
    - Kaiten was not the only change, as explained countless times, but it's not as if you displayed any semblance of educated oipinion so far.
    - The changes where not justified, despite the devs attemps
    - we were asked to try it and give feedback and dismissed

    Again, go back to your hole unless you are actually willing to bring anything relevant.

    I'm all for having better healers like we used to, it's not a cry me a river competition and what you're doing isn't helping anyone.
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    Last edited by Deithwen; 08-18-2022 at 07:22 AM.

  3. #283
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deithwen View Post
    It's crazy that you cry over healer skills.
    It's crazy that you cry over Samurai skills

    Quote Originally Posted by Deithwen View Post
    It was on top of that just before the next ultimate.
    What relevance does ultimate have to you?

    Since you dodged the question, putting out the fire first is the correct answer.
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  4. #284
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    Deithwen Feainnewedd
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    Did you just try to mock me by quoting me actually mocking you and making a parody of your previous statement ?
    Are you okay? Remember to stay hydrated during summer.

    On your second question, ultimates are relevant to me. Why do you ask? What did you assume ?

    And for your last sentence, no, we fight on every front we can, especially the current ones where we are asked feedback for.
    Are you really saying that we should stop giving feedback regarding samurai and give feedback for healers instead ?.while we are specifically responding to Yoshida's request ?

    Can't you see how unreasonable you look ?
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  5. #285
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    Quote Originally Posted by IllyaPrisma View Post
    Imagine that there are 3 Houses in a neighborhood. One of the houses is literally on fire, and another house is missing a window. Do you put out the fire first? Or do you prioritize repairing the window first...

    Healers: Our jobs suck and are boring now.
    Also Healers: Better keep on playing this role I hate!

    If the metaphorical house you're describing is literally on fire . . . why are you staying in the house? Why not, oh I don't know, leave the house?

    Instead you continue to play the role and you continue to pay to play the game.

    Vote with your wallet or change your role.

    Number of players playing a role, or in this case not playing a role and/or lost subs speak louder than any amount of complaining on any platform will.

    In addition, their team is more than capable of fixing/adjusting/changing more than one job at a time. It's not like we have to pick and choose.

    Plenty of jobs and plenty of roles have a ton to be mad about, but coming in here acting like your job is most important and thus no one else should be able to complain about anything else is silly.

    (Edit: I couldn't resist commenting after seeing this back and forth since it's just so absurd lol)
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  6. #286
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    Healer's house aint burning any more it's a smoking ruin at this point and I'm very sorry it got reduced to that 'cause I used to couch surf in there, but now its our houses turn to be on fire and we'd like for YoshiP to pass us the hose but he seems busy playing on his island yelling "LALALA I CANT HEAR YOU", it's likely that he even is the one who started all these fires so can you please stop pointing fingers at us for one minute? It doesn't help and we didn't ask for this
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    Last edited by Hezhi; 08-18-2022 at 08:38 AM.

  7. #287
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    -sips wine seeing the silly Samurais still fight on over something that was made clear “No more Kaiten”

    By Halone..
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    Vencio continues to write S-Tier level cringe lord comments lol

    If I had to peg Vencio's age, based on their previous comments, I'd venture they are quite young (probably between 12-14). It's ok Vencio, we all have these moments growing up on the interwebs, some day you will look back on their comments with as much cringe as we do reading them =)
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  9. #289
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurenXIV View Post
    Vencio continues to write S-Tier level cringe lord comments lol

    If I had to peg Vencio's age, based on their previous comments, I'd venture they are quite young (probably between 12-14). It's ok Vencio, we all have these moments growing up on the interwebs, some day you will look back on their comments with as much cringe as we do reading them =)
    Says he who like the flock of SAMs are under denial & evermore remaining in limbo, longing for Kaiten.

    I pray Halone to guide these poor lost sheeps into the truth
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  10. #290
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurenXIV View Post
    Vencio continues to write S-Tier level cringe lord comments lol

    If I had to peg Vencio's age, based on their previous comments, I'd venture they are quite young (probably between 12-14). It's ok Vencio, we all have these moments growing up on the interwebs, some day you will look back on their comments with as much cringe as we do reading them =)
    What annoys me is the fact the mods refuse to ban him. He's just outright trolling and being passive aggressive. Its why I just threw him on ignore.
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