Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
We could not be at more opposite ends of the spectrum. Without objective morality, it would be hell on earth because human nature inherently drives us to to some pretty terrible things.
If it was objective wouldn't human nature not matter? Doesn't human nature show to some degree that morals are subjective and while within a social construct the notion of do not do x because it is wrong is enough for some, they need or you will face y consequence.

For some rules themselves are enough, I know many people that follow no smoking signs or no guns past certain area as examples, but I also know of many that ignore the no smoking signs due to lack of enforcement, and still conceal carry in places with signs that state the otherwise. Hell I know of people that drive without insurance. It is all about risk tolerance, and often consequences or likelihood of getting caught play into that risk tolerance equation.

Overall I guess you have more faith in humanity, personal I think if punishment was not a thing many people would ignore most if not all laws that have no personal impact on their own life.