VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[Derio]

Hopefully they focus more on hairstyles than headgear. It is a shame the lack of hairstyles available for viera and hrothgar.

[XiRon]

Hopefully they focus more on hairstyles than headgear. It is a shame the lack of hairstyles available for viera and hrothgar.

Even though I deeply want every single Modern Aesthetic to work THIS EXPANSION yknow I went into CC the other day and hrothgar only have 5 options. Their base face options, their base face options again but slightly different, and Emmanellain. Viera have 21 styles. That's so so SO depressing for anyone who buys the game specifically to play as a hrothgar. They need to let hrothgar actually use all their race-specific styles regardless of face type and then also add more universal styles so hrothgar character creation isnt so damn bleak, especially because hrothgar (and viera) do not have the luxury of enjoying a free trial and races you have pay2play as should be better. Much much muuuuuuuuuuuch better.

[Adamantini]

Even though I deeply want every single Modern Aesthetic to work THIS EXPANSION yknow I went into CC the other day and hrothgar only have 5 options. Their base face options, their base face options again but slightly different, and Emmanellain. Viera have 21 styles. That's so so SO depressing for anyone who buys the game specifically to play as a hrothgar. They need to let hrothgar actually use all their race-specific styles regardless of face type and then also add more universal styles so hrothgar character creation isnt so damn bleak, especially because hrothgar (and viera) do not have the luxury of enjoying a free trial and races you have pay2play as should be better. Much much muuuuuuuuuuuch better.

The worst thing is that, as far as I know, they don't warn you about the limitations within the game.

So imagine you coming to play this game in the free trial, liking hrothgar or viera and ending up buying the game to be able to play with them, not understanding much about why to have less hair in the options, but you were told that you enable more within the game, so you keep going, and when you get real, you realize you won't have your hair unlocked, let alone your hats. It's a frustrating situation, mainly because you have to either end ARR in order to change, or pay for it.

For some people, waiting to change races, paying for an item in a monthly fee-based game, or creating a new character and starting all over again may mean nothing. But I guarantee that there are people who take character customization and appearance very seriously (myself included), that the dollar is not that cheap for the country's currency (myself included too), or that you won't want to start from zero because it sucks you want to reach a goal, and have to start over (I've already tried to create an alt about 5 times, but I always give up because I'm 90 levels away from getting everything unlocked).

I turned Viera already knowing that the company sucks, but I can't stop thinking about those who didn't, since my friend created a Hrothgar and ended up frustrated (and I had already warned him about the restrictions, but he thought I was exaggerating)

[SturmChurro]

I honestly want to know in what world did they think having Viera and Hrothgar released as they did was a good idea. Did they really think people would be perfectly fine with the limitations? If so they were EXTREMELY misinformed. I get it's a lot of work to make a new race, let alone 2, but if they couldn't get it right I would rather they didn't do it at all until they could get it right. I honestly want female Hrothgar to work out but honestly, I do not trust them to do them right either.

If male viera is anything to go by (which I've read people say don't have the same restrictions female viera had), female hrothgar may come a bit less limited, or at least more easily updated than male hrothgar. You'd think so at least. If they went back and added ears, you'd assume shared hairs that work on them would have ears as well. Who knows though, like I have said before, SE will have to earn my trust with these races.

[Yencat]

Its hard to determine whats up with that hair because it lacks a viera number (buns have their own file numbering), lacks an icon, and also lacks a male counterpart while not being unisex. The Lyse hair was patched in complete back before it was released. As is, this hair new file is not complete.

That's good to know, since it's only been on NPC's so far is this how NPC-only hair normally shows up? Other than Lyse's hair I believe this is the only other hairstyle they've released so far in EW so it'd be an odd (but not entirely shocking) choice to not make it compatible.

I wonder what the "Jenomis" hair will be as well as his actual hairstyle is already a MGP hairstyle.

[XiRon]

That's good to know, since it's only been on NPC's so far is this how NPC-only hair normally shows up? Other than Lyse's hair I believe this is the only other hairstyle they've released so far in EW so it'd be an odd (but not entirely shocking) choice to not make it compatible.

I wonder what the "Jenomis" hair will be as well as his actual hairstyle is already a MGP hairstyle.

As someone pointed out Jenomis Lexentails hair is just the male Adventure hair and that hair is available for like nothing mgp so...who can say? Only like 3 men in the game have unique hair those being Hien, Elpis-Selch and Hyth. And if they were gonna add Hiens, finally, itd probably be under the "highponytail" as a genderspecific variant. Theyre never gonna go back and add it to Hiens cashshop outfit, if they were theyve had years to do it.

I actually do hope Hiens is male hpt and hrothgar get it. His hair is the best thing about him lmao

[LuciaMirain]

I just want Hildas tbh, for all races but it looks amazing on viera and has been asked for, for years now. It probably is the tiny ponytail being added which I feel is so underwhelming considering there are better ponytails in the game already. I again wish they would just be more transparent about this. Nothin was mentioned this LL and while the release is only a week away I am worried that it again will be a disappointment to not be able to play my favourite race without tremendous limitations.

[Yencat]

As someone pointed out Jenomis Lexentails hair is just the male Adventure hair and that hair is available for like nothing mgp so...who can say? Only like 3 men in the game have unique hair those being Hien, Elpis-Selch and Hyth. And if they were gonna add Hiens, finally, itd probably be under the "highponytail" as a genderspecific variant. Theyre never gonna go back and add it to Hiens cashshop outfit, if they were theyve had years to do it.

I actually do hope Hiens is male hpt and hrothgar get it. His hair is the best thing about him lmao

That would be nice but I honestly can't see them giving out a unique NPC hairstyle like that when they're pretty much exclusively Mogstation. I agree they'll probably never go back and add his hairstyle to the current outfit, but I could see them giving him a new outfit at some point and bundling the hair with that instead.

I feel like the shorter, wavy ponytail would be Highponytail (or whatever they end up officially calling it) but no idea what Jenomis could be.

[VerdeLuck]

I honestly want to know in what world did they think having Viera and Hrothgar released as they did was a good idea. Did they really think people would be perfectly fine with the limitations? If so they were EXTREMELY misinformed. I get it's a lot of work to make a new race, let alone 2, but if they couldn't get it right I would rather they didn't do it at all until they could get it right. I honestly want female Hrothgar to work out but honestly, I do not trust them to do them right either.

The main benefit now seems to be that they have higher quality models and textures than other races, but with the 7.0 graphical update that's going to get flipped if they don't also update the Viera and Hrothgar models.
I'm not looking forward to the probable 7.0 situation where Viera and Hrothgar both have lower quality models and textures than other races, and then also can't use any of the headgear SE releases.

[Adamantini]

The main benefit now seems to be that they have higher quality models and textures than other races, but with the 7.0 graphical update that's going to get flipped if they don't also update the Viera and Hrothgar models.
I'm not looking forward to the probable 7.0 situation where Viera and Hrothgar both have lower quality models and textures than other races, and then also can't any of the headgear SE releases.

I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't give the Vieras and Hrothgars the graphical update, and claim it was due to them being the latest.