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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    I think I will continue speaking my mind on things as they are teased/announced and hold them accountable by speaking out whenever what we see in game does not match what they say elsewhere. New characters didn't materialize in 6.1. This was not to the game's benefit. New characters are coming in 6.2. This is good and is aligned with what they said previously. It is our duty as the customers and consumers of this game to maintain and raise the bar of quality for this game. Expressing ourselves clearly and honestly is necessary for that to occur.
    Yeah but....when you have such odd takes like complaining about the "image of Final Fantasy XIV" and now complaining about Lopporits dancing (which obviously is playing into the next set of Hildibrand quests which that thing is appropriate for and ALSO A REFERENCE to the dancers in FFIV, and also this doesnt even matter in the grand scheme of things to cause players to unsubscribe to the game) then we as a community also need to discuss and look back into whatever feedback we give that's considered actually plausible and viable. You cant forever hide your nitpicks and complaints as good feedback.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Yeah but....when you have such odd takes like complaining about the "image of Final Fantasy XIV" and now complaining about Lopporits dancing (which obviously is playing into the next set of Hildibrand quests which that thing is appropriate for and ALSO A REFERENCE to the dancers in FFIV, and also this doesnt even matter in the grand scheme of things to cause players to unsubscribe to the game) then we as a community also need to discuss and look back into whatever feedback we give that's considered actually plausible and viable. You cant forever hide your nitpicks and complaints as good feedback.
    This. The lopporits dancing is most likely part of Hildibrand where nothing is to be taken too seriously. Be like Cyr from the HW Hildibrand story and learn to throw any logical thoughts out the door. I'm a little surprised no one from the "everything must be serious and no wasteful animation" crowd didn't complain about how bendy parts of grandpa reaper's avatar was. No one should be able to bend sideways like that. Ahem. I don't think I saw any of the other "new" hairstyles besides the Snow hairstyle on the few Hrothgar they used when showing off the various gear sets or glamor. Course I'm not sure what the hairstyles they recently got currently look like on them so I wouldn't be able to go and say "Ah ha that Hrothgar has ears and is using the 2B hair" for instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Yeah but....when you have such odd takes like complaining about the "image of Final Fantasy XIV" and now complaining about Lopporits dancing (which obviously is playing into the next set of Hildibrand quests which that thing is appropriate for and ALSO A REFERENCE to the dancers in FFIV, and also this doesnt even matter in the grand scheme of things to cause players to unsubscribe to the game) then we as a community also need to discuss and look back into whatever feedback we give that's considered actually plausible and viable. You cant forever hide your nitpicks and complaints as good feedback.
    Then we shall have to agree to disagree. I believe my feedback is both honest and relevant. Respecting fans of the antagonist faction, and yes in this case that includes Zenos, by not being dismissive about their concerns and fleshing out their stories to a sufficient degree is both plausible and viable too. Using appropriate imagery for the late teen-adult playerbase is also something they should be doing instead of cartoons that feel like they talk at the player rather than with them.

    I have no interest in seeing Loporrits dance over the place where we fought Zodiark, and I am reasonably concerned that Lahabrea might have his character reduced in such a way as to push the notion that the Ancients were set on the path of auto-destruction (despite clear and readily available evidence in game providing evidence to the contrary).

    Nevertheless, complaints are a valuable part of feedback and crucial for the game to see continued improvement. You might agree with some and not others. That is simply the way of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Then we shall have to agree to disagree. I believe my feedback is both honest and relevant. Respecting fans of the antagonist faction, and yes in this case that includes Zenos, by not being dismissive about their concerns and fleshing out their stories to a sufficient degree is both plausible and viable too. Using appropriate imagery for the late teen-adult playerbase is also something they should be doing instead of cartoons that feel like they talk at the player rather than with them.

    I have no interest in seeing Loporrits dance over the place where we fought Zodiark, and I am reasonably concerned that Lahabrea might have his character reduced in such a way as to push the notion that the Ancients were set on the path of auto-destruction (despite clear and readily available evidence in game providing evidence to the contrary).

    Nevertheless, complaints are a valuable part of feedback and crucial for the game to see continued improvement. You might agree with some and not others. That is simply the way of things.
    Wanna know something? You can also learn to admit when you have clear bias or strong opinions over something in the game AND understand that your opinions and ideas would probably not work for the greater good of the game.

    I for one, would want some of the old school rpg elements be put back into current FFXIV such as TP or elemental attributes and cross class skills to give more flavor to combat, but guess what, I know these opinions I have are not good for the long term of the game and would be detrimental to the overall current experience where you get more frustration from the majority of the playerbase than the few who finds it appealing.

    So yes, feel free to express your opinions. Its a free forum after all, but at least realize everything that you or I say should be taken as "this is how the game must be".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Yeah but....when you have such odd takes like complaining about the "image of Final Fantasy XIV" and now complaining about Lopporits dancing (which obviously is playing into the next set of Hildibrand quests which that thing is appropriate for and ALSO A REFERENCE to the dancers in FFIV, and also this doesnt even matter in the grand scheme of things to cause players to unsubscribe to the game) then we as a community also need to discuss and look back into whatever feedback we give that's considered actually plausible and viable. You cant forever hide your nitpicks and complaints as good feedback.
    I always thought the lopporits were gonna part of the new BT as tavern wenches
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