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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    I fail to see how asking for FFXIV to adopt the Heavensward approach to storytelling again constitutes wanting a different game but still calling it FFXIV.
    You must be a big fan of silly moogle quests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You must be a big fan of silly moogle quests.
    When they are included in a balanced manner and do not consume more of the animation budget than scenes more relevant to the plot? There is no problem. When they do? Then I will speak against them.

    Heavensward did things properly. Endwalker, with eating burgers at the end of the world and no on-screen depiction of the Sundering, did not.
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    nd Dragon Riding that is coming are Dragonflight.
    Ugh. No. Never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Ugh. No. Never.
    then what about a guild wars one? :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Ugh. No. Never.
    Honestly as great and fun of a QoL improvement that GW2 Momentum flying is, I'm surprised that WoW is getting it before XiV is. If we don't see it here in some form I'd be honestly surprised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Ugh. No. Never.
    GW2's mount system feels insanely better than FXIV's, like incomparably better almost. Of course WoW's original system is akin to FFXIV but if WoW is inspiring from GW2 as it appears, for dragonflight, that imo is a fantastic addition for WoW players.

    I would lose all my mounts, paid included, for that system.. not that I suggest that be the way they do it if they did lol.
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    . Analyse both what people liked, and what they didn't. Whether they choose to act on people's feedback is their choice to make.
    They do get real feedback...as opposed to the imaginary "significant number of players" you seem to have sourced from more or less nowhere.

    See Aveyond,.I got into contact with friends on a JP server and asked around my OCE servers..all five of them. I asked around on an EU server and the response was..."who?"

    None of them had ever heard of you.

    So again, where or who is this "significant number" from?
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    I'm surprised that WoW is getting it before XiV is.
    ....we can sit and watch then screw it up.
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    The eating burgers scene with the Scions has a close counterpoint in HW with the dinner scene with Aymeric, honestly. And Aymeric's fork and knife and the meal presented is not remotely medieval - or even 1600s Europe. I can understand if its modernity is jarring -but then Aymeric's dinner scene was just as jarringly modern to me, and this is FF where the setting inspirations are eclectic - and good writing needs changes of mood and downtime.
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    If only that Zenos scene ended with either the injury of a scion or the removal of one from the plot, then perhaps the forge ahead message would've resonated more with people after seeing the mouthpieces of this message go through a more recent ordeal. In any case, if not the burger scene then we also know that Estinien putting his boot on the dormitory balcony was also rather costly. And yet, not a scene, not even a still, not even a drawing depicting the Sundering.

    How can anyone justify this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Denishia View Post
    The eating burgers scene with the Scions has a close counterpoint in HW with the dinner scene with Aymeric, honestly. And Aymeric's fork and knife and the meal presented is not remotely medieval - or even 1600s Europe.
    No, but it still was more fitting in the fantasy setting of Ishgard than eating hamburgers that came straight out of a McDonald's bag with the world on the brink of ending. The two scenes are not remotely similar in terms of how dissonant they were with the tone and setting their respective expansions were supposed to depict.

    You're not going to convince me that having a fancy dinner in Aymeric's mansion where he treated the player with respect and not goofiness is in any way comparable to seeing G'raha Tia wipe the cheese falling off his burger or Alisae taking the pickles off of hers.
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    Last edited by aveyond-dreams; 08-16-2022 at 01:31 AM.
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