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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Im sorta curious why the story team chose, Troia as a focus on our first major lore piece of the 13th shard's world. My only guess since Troia was one of the kingdom's in FFIV that flourished in everlasting bounty and grace then it would prolly make a good pick to see it's downfall. But I would've imagined they'd choose Baron.

    My other guess why is that from the trailer it seems that Scarmiglione will be the boss fight for that dungeon, and since Troia housed the Earth Crystal in FFIV, that would link him to it.
    This point I'm a bit worried about the story telling for 6.2, it looks like it's going far too all in with trying to remake FF4 that I'm worried they aren't really thinking about making a good story with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    This point I'm a bit worried about the story telling for 6.2, it looks like it's going far too all in with trying to remake FF4 that I'm worried they aren't really thinking about making a good story with it
    I dont necessarily see it as them trying to remake FFIV. Its just them doing what they did before with a lot of the lore pieces in this game that reference older FF titles by recontextualizing them into a new meaning. We already have the plot being different from main FFIV where its us trying to figure out what happened to Vtra's sis, the mystery behind the 13th shard along with now learning about reaper lady and whats her deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    I dont necessarily see it as them trying to remake FFIV. Its just them doing what they did before with a lot of the lore pieces in this game that reference older FF titles by recontextualizing them into a new meaning. We already have the plot being different from main FFIV where its us trying to figure out what happened to Vtra's sis, the mystery behind the 13th shard along with now learning about reaper lady and whats her deal.
    Outside of maybe the 12 parts I don't think there been a main story part that has imported this much almost whole from another game and they don't really seem to recontextualising them either....maybe I am just being bitter after the Eden stuff but not really liking how much ff4 stuff seems to be getting imported
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    Outside of maybe the 12 parts I don't think there been a main story part that has imported this much almost whole from another game and they don't really seem to recontextualising them either....maybe I am just being bitter after the Eden stuff but not really liking how much ff4 stuff seems to be getting imported
    Uh...did you already forget Crystal Tower in ARR and Shadowbringers being almost a full re-imagining of FFIII's plot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Uh...did you already forget Crystal Tower in ARR and Shadowbringers being almost a full re-imagining of FFIII's plot?
    I didn't notice that at all with Shadowbringers to be honest, if that was going on they did a good job hiding it from me. Crystal worked for me, maybe it helped that it felt they did a good job making it work in the setting the 14 and more about using some assets from 3 to make some fun fights
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    I didn't notice that at all with Shadowbringers to be honest, if that was going on they did a good job hiding it from me. Crystal worked for me, maybe it helped that it felt they did a good job making it work in the setting the 14 and more about using some assets from 3 to make some fun fights
    And thats what they have been doing so far with their references and callbacks from other FF games to fit with FFXIV's lore. And if you played FFIII and understood its lore, then you would've noticed how heavily they borrowed a ton of elements for FFXIV's msq. But I personally never minded it since like I said they reused them well to fit into the setting.

    But back to 6.2 speculation, I'm wondering whats the deal with Golbez in FFXIV's setting, since in his game he was just being mind controlled by a powerful Lunarian, Zeromus and wasnt really a bad guy. I wonder if that'll mean anything.
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    You do not understand. The guild is about the ethical only and does not tolerate the unethical thing ever. Scene where Venar grounds No Shadow Gods to go to they room and seal the power is fake. The writer make the No Shadow God look to be the fool when the No Shadow are supposing to be the perfect race like the Atlantis people. She genocide the Atlantis without the consent and she even has the wikipedia entry to praise when King Solus does not. Story call her herois! Herois!! This is fake because the writer can not even spel. Is worse than high-cholesterol burger we are angry already.

    We support the No Shadow God for all the story since the Heavensward because of high ethic ground only. Because when King Solus decree that all the worlds must die he does it to protect racial purity of the No Shadow God peoplen. If you step on the ant from above do you cry? No. King Solus does not cry when he kill the inferior race because is not murder it is the cleansing. To making the omelette must break a few heads. It make the world the better place. Guild take his position because is very ethical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeham View Post
    You do not understand. The guild is about the ethical only and does not tolerate the unethical thing ever. Scene where Venar grounds No Shadow Gods to go to they room and seal the power is fake. The writer make the No Shadow God look to be the fool when the No Shadow are supposing to be the perfect race like the Atlantis people. She genocide the Atlantis without the consent and she even has the wikipedia entry to praise when King Solus does not. Story call her herois! Herois!! This is fake because the writer can not even spel. Is worse than high-cholesterol burger we are angry already.

    We support the No Shadow God for all the story since the Heavensward because of high ethic ground only. Because when King Solus decree that all the worlds must die he does it to protect racial purity of the No Shadow God peoplen. If you step on the ant from above do you cry? No. King Solus does not cry when he kill the inferior race because is not murder it is the cleansing. To making the omelette must break a few heads. It make the world the better place. Guild take his position because is very ethical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
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