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[Atelier-Bagur]

Im sorta curious why the story team chose Troia as a focus on our first major lore piece of the 13th shard's world. My only guess since Troia was one of the kingdom's in FFIV that flourished in everlasting bounty and grace then it would prolly make a good pick to see it's downfall. But I would've imagined they'd choose Baron.

My other guess why is that from the trailer it seems that Scarmiglione will be the boss fight for that dungeon, and since Troia housed the Earth Crystal in FFIV and him being the elemental fiend of earth, then there's the connection.

[jameseoakes]

Im sorta curious why the story team chose, Troia as a focus on our first major lore piece of the 13th shard's world. My only guess since Troia was one of the kingdom's in FFIV that flourished in everlasting bounty and grace then it would prolly make a good pick to see it's downfall. But I would've imagined they'd choose Baron.

My other guess why is that from the trailer it seems that Scarmiglione will be the boss fight for that dungeon, and since Troia housed the Earth Crystal in FFIV, that would link him to it.

This point I'm a bit worried about the story telling for 6.2, it looks like it's going far too all in with trying to remake FF4 that I'm worried they aren't really thinking about making a good story with it

[BaconBits]

Okay, let's not pretend that Big Momma Genocydaelyn didn't wipe an entire race off the face of the universe, erased their culture, drastically shortened the lifespans of their sundered copies, and took their memories away. Let's also not pretend that the story didn't essentially sweep all that under the rug in order to praise her as a noble and heroic figure, with no one calling her out on her deeds save for herself. Let's also not pretend that the blood Emet-Selch, Lahabrea, Elidibus and the rest of the sundered Ascians spilled in their desperate attempts to Rejoin their worlds lies on her hands, considering she intentionally allowed the three Unsundered Ancients to escape, knowing full well what would happen considering we ourselves told her.

Emet-Selch is decidedly no saint, and the story goes out of it's way to make sure you understand that, but with Venat it practically bends over backwards to give her the "Sloppeh Toppeh Gawk Gawk Wombo Combo 9000" to have Hades of all people begrudgingly praise her.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Guess we're having this argument yet again.

[Atelier-Bagur]

This point I'm a bit worried about the story telling for 6.2, it looks like it's going far too all in with trying to remake FF4 that I'm worried they aren't really thinking about making a good story with it

I dont necessarily see it as them trying to remake FFIV. Its just them doing what they did before with a lot of the lore pieces in this game that reference older FF titles by recontextualizing them into a new meaning. We already have the plot being different from main FFIV where its us trying to figure out what happened to Vtra's sis, the mystery behind the 13th shard along with now learning about reaper lady and whats her deal.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Guess we're having this argument yet again.

What else are we going to do on the FFXIV Forums?

[Atelier-Bagur]

Guess we're having this argument yet again.

yeah and I'm sure most of us are already sick and tired of seeing this crap bleed into some threads trying to discuss other elements of this game. We already have the "What's the deal with that lackluster story ya-da thread", how about people try to have their arguments there or even better yet, ignore the people whom clearly are trying to instigate drama and responses? And Im talking about both sides here. Wasnt this thread originally supposed to be us discussing about whats in the recent LL? yeah the last few pages sure seems like we're having a healthy discussion about that :/

[jameseoakes]

I dont necessarily see it as them trying to remake FFIV. Its just them doing what they did before with a lot of the lore pieces in this game that reference older FF titles by recontextualizing them into a new meaning. We already have the plot being different from main FFIV where its us trying to figure out what happened to Vtra's sis, the mystery behind the 13th shard along with now learning about reaper lady and whats her deal.

Outside of maybe the 12 parts I don't think there been a main story part that has imported this much almost whole from another game and they don't really seem to recontextualising them either....maybe I am just being bitter after the Eden stuff but not really liking how much ff4 stuff seems to be getting imported

[Atelier-Bagur]

Outside of maybe the 12 parts I don't think there been a main story part that has imported this much almost whole from another game and they don't really seem to recontextualising them either....maybe I am just being bitter after the Eden stuff but not really liking how much ff4 stuff seems to be getting imported

Uh...did you already forget Crystal Tower in ARR and Shadowbringers being almost a full re-imagining of FFIII's plot?

[jameseoakes]

Uh...did you already forget Crystal Tower in ARR and Shadowbringers being almost a full re-imagining of FFIII's plot?

I didn't notice that at all with Shadowbringers to be honest, if that was going on they did a good job hiding it from me. Crystal worked for me, maybe it helped that it felt they did a good job making it work in the setting the 14 and more about using some assets from 3 to make some fun fights